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Birchall31628  
#1 Posted : 09 July 2014 08:34:36(UTC)
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Birchall31628

Hi all, I am rolling out a national tool box talks programme but clearly with the extent of staff and timing I can only cover 2 to 3 topics per region every two months. There is alot of catching up to do as we don't have evidence of tool box talks in the past. Therefore we are looking at the option of online training. Just looking at everyone's opinion on online training please, any experiences good or bad???
alexmccreadie13  
#2 Posted : 09 July 2014 08:47:29(UTC)
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alexmccreadie13

Birchall Only in my opinion you can,t beat face to face Toolbox talks. On line anyone can do it. I also appreciate the logistical nightmare trying to deliver them personally on multi sites. We have put all our Depot Managers through IOSH Managing Safety to ensure they understand the need to promote and deliver toolbox talks. We cover 2 subjects a month. Good luck whatever you decide. Alex
ExDeeps  
#3 Posted : 09 July 2014 10:35:07(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Hi, My opinion is that there is never a one size fits all when it comes to training. We all tend towards our own preferred learning style, be it book reading, doing, talking and discussing or watching. So, in reality whilst e learning has a place the topics covered do need a second alternative layer to mop up those that don't learn well in front of a computer. From memory, I recall something along the lines that we only retain 20% of anything we are shown / taught if only done once and re-inforceing the message is the way to go. doesn't make your task any easier I'm afraid but maybe helps to put learning in context - it has a place at the table, it is not the table..! Jim
bob youel  
#4 Posted : 09 July 2014 10:41:43(UTC)
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bob youel

why do U have to undertake the task - why can't the persons line manager present the TT's? I have people all over the place but I do not undertake TT's their managers do the job online training = enough said in most cases
PIKEMAN  
#5 Posted : 09 July 2014 10:54:51(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

Agree with the comments about face to face TBTs. I also agree with sending people on IOSH MS - the trouble is that delivereing a TBT is another thing entirely. It is odd how people like supervisors who spent all day every day talking to their people apparently cannot stand up and do a TBT! When I introduced this across multi sites I started off by doing this myself with the managers observing and then got them to do it, gradually withdrawing myself from the delivery. In a large organisation with multiple sites, you could nominate TBT mentors to cascade the technique? What you don't want is the supervisors saying "read this and sign the sheet".................... this is not hov TBTs are supposed to work.
jarsmith83  
#6 Posted : 09 July 2014 11:24:40(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Pikeman wrote:
Agree with the comments about face to face TBTs. I also agree with sending people on IOSH MS - the trouble is that delivereing a TBT is another thing entirely. It is odd how people like supervisors who spent all day every day talking to their people apparently cannot stand up and do a TBT! When I introduced this across multi sites I started off by doing this myself with the managers observing and then got them to do it, gradually withdrawing myself from the delivery. In a large organisation with multiple sites, you could nominate TBT mentors to cascade the technique? What you don't want is the supervisors saying "read this and sign the sheet".................... this is not hov TBTs are supposed to work.
Totally agree with the sentiment of Pikeman`s comments. I would however, after implementing both face to face and e-learning across companies, say that both are beneficial. We currently have these running side-by-side on my company. The TBT program has been designed to be realistic. Many TBTs are on subjects that are not relevant to the work taking place, so these have been removed. The timetable has taken into account current work duties to be realistic. Approved persons have been put in place to deliver TBTs to ensure there is consistent delivery. Nothing worse than a TBT taking place where delivery is poor and seen as boring to the attendees. With regards to the e-learning. Companies can design tailored options for your company to suit. You can have targets issued to managers/supervisors and track-able statistics to ensure that targets are met. It really comes down to flexibility and how serious your company is about safety, sometimes its difficult to talk the directors round to this dual approach as face to face TBTs are often seen as preference, whereas e-learning is just seen as cost saving. As seen in previous posts, there always seems to be the "one camp or another" approach when this doesn't have to be the case, a dual approach can and does work. Good luck!
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