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BJC  
#1 Posted : 09 July 2014 14:53:15(UTC)
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I understand the Govt is looking to make non reporting of criminal acts by witnesses an offence would this be good for safety at work.
Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 09 July 2014 16:54:12(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Presumably you've read this in the context of reporting abuse (specifically child abuse according to some articles, but I don't personally see a need for that distinction).
David Cameron blundering into yet another legal minefield, hoping to play to Daily Wail readers perhaps.
BJC  
#3 Posted : 09 July 2014 17:44:47(UTC)
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Ron presently you can be guilty of an offence by pure association or have your UK citizenship rescinded even though you were born here without court involvement. So I believe Cameron is intent on making it a criminal offence not to dob others in - the question is would it help safety in the workplace ?
matelot1965  
#4 Posted : 09 July 2014 22:52:35(UTC)
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matelot1965

You could probably argue that this is already covered by S7 of HSAWA

i.e Employees to take reasonable care of himself and others who may be affected by his acts or omissions
BJC  
#5 Posted : 10 July 2014 08:54:39(UTC)
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Indeed but that does not focus the mind in the same way as a carte blanche law perhaps even applying joint enterprise principles stating you are legally obliged to report malfeasance re your workmates or whomever.

I believe it is merely a matter of time.



pete48  
#6 Posted : 10 July 2014 10:39:50(UTC)
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pete48

Simple answer--no.
Undermine trust. Problematic reporting of a person more senior than you. I could go on but the reasons must be apparent to anyone who has practical experience of workplace OSH.

Just look at the mess that is whistle blowing as a failed example of making sure things don't go unreported.

Are the govt really thinking about suggesting, for example, that they would prosecute 30 people in a small business after the company is found guilty of an offence and the prosecutors consider that they all must have been able to see the offence?

Sound byte rubbish draconian response by the chattering classes to the latest revelation about wrongdoings in high places.

The time to consider will come if and when draft changes to the law are presented in fact,

p48
Jackie Robertson  
#7 Posted : 10 July 2014 14:24:35(UTC)
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Jackie Robertson

This wouldn't work. In the nuclear, aviation and oil and gas industries a 'no blame' reporting culture is normal.

It would be a backwards safety management step. Provocation I think, no more no, no less.
BJC  
#8 Posted : 10 July 2014 14:42:58(UTC)
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Sweeping laws are being introduced daily; maybe if they do introduce a Dob In Law it would be nice if they could include Court scrutiny.
PIKEMAN  
#9 Posted : 10 July 2014 15:19:11(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

It would work if another new law was enacted that MPs had to report any fiddling of expenses or other wrongdoing by fellow MPs.
billstrak  
#10 Posted : 28 July 2014 07:57:13(UTC)
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billstrak

Jackie,

Cannot speak for nuclear or avaiation industry; but within the O&G industry a "No Blame" culture was replaced a long time ago by a "Just Culture" philosophy
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