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jodieclark1510  
#1 Posted : 15 July 2014 10:07:26(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Hello,

I'm in a bit of a pickle and I wonder if I can get some help. We employ some day rate contractors, but I am not sure where we stand with regards to their health and safety, as we do not employ/pay them directly, they are sent by their employer to us. How far with regards to health and safety would we required to go?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Jodie
chas  
#2 Posted : 15 July 2014 10:38:05(UTC)
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chas

In short and notwithstanding your general duty of care, it depends very much on the degree of control you have over their work. The more control you have over what they do, how they do what they do and when they do what they do, the greater degree of responsibility you have over their H&S. A lot also depends on whether or not they are using your tools and equipment or whether they supply their own.
jodieclark1510  
#3 Posted : 15 July 2014 10:41:47(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Thanks Chas,

This has literally just been sprung on me so I am waiting for HR to get me as many details as possible so that I can look into it a bit more

Jodie
toffee wrapper  
#4 Posted : 15 July 2014 10:47:47(UTC)
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toffee wrapper

Jodie.
Someone needs to be responsible for their H&S. Whether it is you or their direct employer, someone needs to be responsible for their welfare.

It all depends on their work, their competence/experience and the relationship between your company and the employer. If the employer is fully aware of the work which they are required to undertake (I assume they are) then they should supply them with all the required H&S info, as it is they who are ultimately responsible for the care of their employees. However this H&S info will probably have to come for you in the first instance.
jodieclark1510  
#5 Posted : 15 July 2014 10:59:17(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Thanks Toffee Wrapper, this is the first time I have come across this (New to health and safety in the real world) and I have no idea what has already been put into place, now I have to wait for the people that have brought this issue up to give me some information so that I can look into it and look into this.

Jodie
David Bannister  
#6 Posted : 15 July 2014 11:03:10(UTC)
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David Bannister

Hi Jodie. Your site, you own the risks and the duty to reasonably control those risks, whether to your own employees, somebody else's or to site visitors.

Their employers have duties too but it still remains your site and your work activities that create the risks.
jodieclark1510  
#7 Posted : 15 July 2014 11:08:47(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Thanks David,

That's a great help thank you, when HR came to me initially I went along those lines but as with any work place there's always people a bit shy of health and safety.

Jodie
Farrall900153  
#8 Posted : 15 July 2014 13:49:15(UTC)
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Farrall900153

Hi Jodie,
I'd summarise your responsibilities as follows:

s(2) HSW74 - you have a duty of care towards your employees, i.e. those directly on your payroll

s(3) HSW74 - you have a duty of care to those not employed by the company but affected by the company's activities, i.e contractors/ visitors

As has been mentioned previously, the practical level of supervision you need to exercise will depend upon what they're doing, but, as I'm sure you realise, you can't just leave them to it and hope :0)

Maybe it would be helpful to draw up a specific risk assessment for these contractors - once HR have told you what they're going to be doing, of course!

Hope this helps :0)
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