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ExDeeps  
#1 Posted : 16 July 2014 16:35:33(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Hi,
I’ve been asked to look into putting some “tool bags” together for our safety reps when they go out and do their safety walks. Now, I’m thinking a nice, cheep ruck sack type thing with a torch, tape measure, note pad, hazard tape (although I’m not a fan of it) and then I run out of inspiration…. What else could go into a safety reps safety walk tool bag? They have a selection of inspection forms they take with them, so maybe a clip board?
Just to help, this is for a large power station, they have ppe as standard kit, radios are carried anyway, and the idea is individual kits so I’m not going to go and get each of them a camera…!
They’re a good bunch of experienced people and if I can give them something that helps then I am all for it, but, like I say, inspiration has evaporated, although thinking as I type, what about also stuff they might use if they choose to exercise their right to investigate an accident?
Thanks,
Jim
Animax01  
#2 Posted : 16 July 2014 16:43:15(UTC)
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Animax01

Depending on how much you are willing to spend I suppose...

Would dust or decibel monitoring kit be required? Sample pots/bags if they need to take materials away for testing?

They may require some handy wipes just to keep themselves clean.

I can't think of much else....

Pete
JohnW  
#3 Posted : 16 July 2014 16:48:07(UTC)
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JohnW

A camera would be essential, for photo or short video, though if they already have a good mobile phone that is better as they can use it to e-mail photos and videos to their office.

And useful of course when investigating incidents.

John
chris.packham  
#4 Posted : 16 July 2014 16:54:04(UTC)
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chris.packham

How long is a piece of string?

My kit contains things such as a thermohygrometer (for me ambient temperature and relative humidity are important), pH meter, extending mirror (to look into hidden corners, etc.), smoke tubes (great for visual assessment of the effectiveness of LEV), disposable pipettes to collect liquid samples (and containers and waste bag!), light meter, and even, depending on where I am going or what I am investigating such things as a nickel spot test kit! I don't carry a noise meter as this is not something that I am involved with. However you will find small colour change/activated carbon pads that I can use with organic solvents to test how well the worker's gloves are working.

How far do you want to go?

Chris
Jane Blunt  
#5 Posted : 16 July 2014 17:04:40(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

Tie-on labels, in case anything needs to be taken out of service immediately, so that they can indicate what they have done.
chris42  
#6 Posted : 16 July 2014 17:08:08(UTC)
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chris42

Binoculars

Also wondering about what they may measure, a piece of chalk to mark floors and walls or draw a big arrow and the word "Here"
ExDeeps  
#7 Posted : 17 July 2014 08:04:29(UTC)
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ExDeeps

OK, some interesting ideas there folks, thanks. I particularly like the various sample kit/pots ideas, not sure that my reps are really trained (SQEP) re nickel spot testing but the general concept is good. Also like the labels and chalk (I am a fan of the KISS principle – Keep It Simple Stupid)
I agree a camera is important, but as I said, I’m not going to buy each rep one, but a single “reps camera” is good, as is the binoculars.
Something I carry with me and might add is a simple Dictaphone – much easier than carrying a note book etc and a simple way to make notes that can be transcribed back at the office.
Good stuff, many thanks,
Jim
score  
#8 Posted : 17 July 2014 09:01:48(UTC)
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score

Its not Friday yet but I couldn't resist...
How about one of those "wet floor" signs but with a sponge base!!!
achrn  
#9 Posted : 17 July 2014 09:15:46(UTC)
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achrn

The only thing not suggested yet in the list but which can be useful is a standard scale item - something that can be put in a photo so you can see the scale. I have a credit-card size crack width thing (a bit like this, but not this one: http://haagglobal.com/am...h-gaugeproduct-photo.jpg ) and a 300mm ruler that has a block pattern a bit like a levelling staff printed on it. Anything standard would work, however - you could print and laminate your own design.

lwthesm  
#10 Posted : 17 July 2014 11:15:10(UTC)
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lwthesm

Chocolate! (I know it's not Friday)
ExDeeps  
#11 Posted : 17 July 2014 12:51:07(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Guys,
Some more interesting ideas, thanks. To be fair though, “Wet Floor” signs would become a major trip hazard due to numbers in some areas , and chocolate is probably not that nice in a boiler house or turbine hall warm enough to make it more liquid than solid, or is there some other use for it….? Hmm, maybe a water bottle now I think about it!
I do like the “Scale Item” thing, although I tend to use whatever is handy such as a pen or torch. I did ask the stupid question once “why is there a pen in the picture?” and thus learned a useful trick. But a designed for purpose item is a cracking idea.
Many Thanks,
Jim
clifden  
#12 Posted : 18 July 2014 09:35:54(UTC)
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clifden

i have a dictaphone so i can record my findings as i am walking about .
regards
p
clifden  
#13 Posted : 18 July 2014 09:38:38(UTC)
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clifden

and a small dial compass .more useful when out on site rather than inside a structure .
kevkel  
#14 Posted : 18 July 2014 11:40:32(UTC)
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kevkel

I like to have site maps when on a safety tour or conducting risk assessments, particularily when on a larger site.
Kevin
IanDakin  
#15 Posted : 22 July 2014 13:40:07(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi

Why not go over your top risks (from your risk assessments)

Find out what your most frequent/serious accidents/illnesses are

From this devise what they need to target, then ask them how they would best be able to do this and what do they want

Also, maybe suggest that they have a relevant manager with them. Always the best weapon for tackling safety issues.

Ian
Seabee81  
#16 Posted : 22 July 2014 14:12:17(UTC)
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Seabee81

Site rules/induction booklet, emergency response information booklet (contact numbers etc), tool box talk prompt cards

It's probably a good idea to pack some sun block in this weather.
JJ Proudbody  
#17 Posted : 22 July 2014 14:24:25(UTC)
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JJ Proudbody

A copy of Tolleys Health and Safety manual. You never know when somebody will ask you one of those tricky h&s questions.
jarsmith83  
#18 Posted : 22 July 2014 14:28:11(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Am I the only one who thinks that bags wouldn't be carried around constantly. I have all of my equipment stored in my car and I grab what I need, when I require it.

If you are insistent on a kit, surely it would be an idea to align the kit with your safety reps policy "what safety resp are expected to do", and in line with inspection forms and accident/incident investigation forms.

As others have said "how long is a piece of string". Having worked at power stations in the past, I cant see the guys walking around with a bag of items, only to invariably require many of the items, some would already be available on site. Maybe a better idea would be lockable "safety stations" with this equipment available there?

Only my view though....
Me  
#19 Posted : 22 July 2014 14:56:39(UTC)
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Me

Dosimeter?
achrn  
#20 Posted : 22 July 2014 15:07:19(UTC)
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achrn

jarsmith83 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that bags wouldn't be carried around constantly. I have all of my equipment stored in my car and I grab what I need, when I require it.


That rather depends on how close the car in question is. Walking a mile or two to 'grab' something from the car isn't going to be terribly efficient, especially when you get back to the worksite and then realise you need to 'grab' something else too.
Tigers  
#21 Posted : 22 July 2014 15:46:17(UTC)
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Tigers

I am waiting for a new tablet so that I can use apps for a lot of the ideas other users have thought of.

Light and sound meters, camera, video camera, reference books, dictaphone, GPS (and I'm sure there are more useful apps out there too) can be all in one easy to use piece of equipment.

Maybe an apps wish list may get the juices flowing for the tech bods amongst us??
jarsmith83  
#22 Posted : 22 July 2014 16:29:35(UTC)
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jarsmith83

achrn wrote:
jarsmith83 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that bags wouldn't be carried around constantly. I have all of my equipment stored in my car and I grab what I need, when I require it.


That rather depends on how close the car in question is. Walking a mile or two to 'grab' something from the car isn't going to be terribly efficient, especially when you get back to the work site and then realise you need to 'grab' something else too.


You have only focused on the first part of my reply?
achrn  
#23 Posted : 22 July 2014 22:00:38(UTC)
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achrn

jarsmith83 wrote:
achrn wrote:
jarsmith83 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that bags wouldn't be carried around constantly. I have all of my equipment stored in my car and I grab what I need, when I require it.


That rather depends on how close the car in question is. Walking a mile or two to 'grab' something from the car isn't going to be terribly efficient, especially when you get back to the work site and then realise you need to 'grab' something else too.


You have only focused on the first part of my reply?


Yes, I have only responded to that part of your reply to which I had a response to make.


Brett Day SP  
#24 Posted : 24 July 2014 13:11:37(UTC)
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Brett Day SP


At a bit of a tangent, when I go out on site, I take a handfull of packs of ear plugs, half a dozen safety specs so if anyone is not wearing the required kit I can sort the problem there and then.
JJ Proudbody  
#25 Posted : 24 July 2014 13:13:52(UTC)
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JJ Proudbody

Tent and sleeping bag - power stations are big places.

Climbing gear

Bivvy bag (for use when caught out in bad weather on the north face of a cooling tower)
Brett Day SP  
#26 Posted : 24 July 2014 13:15:21(UTC)
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Brett Day SP


What no hammock ??
Invictus  
#27 Posted : 25 July 2014 10:11:50(UTC)
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Invictus

A packed lunch
Bottle of cold beer,
Bigmac1  
#28 Posted : 29 July 2014 22:03:36(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Guys your forgetting one thing, these are Safety reps and not advisors. In my experience although they do a wonderful job and a good one is an integral part of the workplace but they are not as qualified as advisors and taking measurements for noise etc is not their job, they have day jobs.Yes they have a right to be involved in accident investigation not to run one.
pauldavies  
#29 Posted : 30 July 2014 09:52:09(UTC)
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pauldavies

an interesting thread...

i find the most frequent item is the camera on my phone, a scaled reference point (some one mentioned a credit card item) and some wipes to keep my hands clean.

Paul
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