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Today I overheard the guys saying to a new guy you'll need to wear your safety shoes as Lilian wants us to (wasn't slagging me - strangely enough!). It triggered a thought Have I failed? as I want them to wear them for their safety or does it matter the reason so long as they wear them?
I'm aiming towards the folks at the times which are not prescriptive they know what safety measures to take
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Hi Lilian,
I think that its good on one hand that they know they have to wear them, but I can understand your concerns. To know and understand the underlying reasons should be more of a motivation than a whipping stick. I'm not accusing you of ruling by fear or any such nonsense, but it still amazes me at what people take away from training, instructions and the like. I bet that not once did you ever say, I want you to wear them, and not with a reason why!
Good luck with your quandary.
Pete
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Lilian
I recall a similar incident where on seeing me the operative doing cutting put his eye protection on. I stopped and told him to take them off. He looked at me surprised. I the said "carry on cutting", but before he did I explained to him that I don't want him to wear the glasses for my benefit...it's his eyes not mine that will be damaged.
I suppose one could argue that as long as people wear them it does not really matter what the driver is. Yes, it would be nice if we could convince them it was for their own good. On the other side of the coin, when it's hot and they are wearing PPE from head to toe for a relatively mundane task I do have some sympathy for them. In my opinion there is now often too much mandatory PPE. One day we may realise that all this cotton wooling can have a negative effect.
Ray
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Pearl GTL Qatar, employees needed to head wear Safety Glasses, Coverall, gloves, ..etc on 55 C , Humidity over 80% The motive was strong pressure from client on project site...not Company OHS officer..etc...I have heard they broke a lot of records such as 100,000,0000 Man hours without LTI....no sense for a lot of people!!
SHV
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Lilian
I would say that you are doing a good job. The message has got through to the workforce. At the end of the day as long as they wear the protection and stay safe, then all is well.
In an ideal world it would be nice if all the workforce understood and appreciated the H&S measures are there for their benefit; however, this is not always going to be the case.
As you said, at least they weren't slagging you off, which shows a level of understanding and respect.
good work
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As you said, at least they weren't slagging you off, which shows a level of understanding and respect.
I wonder if it may also be a way round embarrassment. They want to do the right thing but are concerned that they’ll be seen as something like the school swot. So they use you as the excuse for wearing their PPE. I’m pretty much in this boat in some instances I think, but I consider this to be moving in the right direction. I’m hoping it’s a matter of time before the embarrassment disappears
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Thanks for the compliments folks. It might be Grahams reasoning. As stated I'm just pleased they are wearing their PPE. Ray and Ciaran - their PPE is not just for the sake of it no mater what the weather. we usually work in folks homes, lofts, etc so there is always a requirement for some sort of PPE. Not really wanting them to wear shorts when putting down loft insulation in case the fibres go into their skin - have other arrangements for the heat.
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I agree it 's good - but having been through some "behavioural safety" type training I'm thinking from the point of view that it seems to be habit forming.
I know when habit forming is discussed in the context of behavioural safety, it is usually bad habits that are being highlighted. However, it should be said that the same habit forming can be appliedto persuading people to adopt good habits too.
So your team automatically putting on PPE and getting the new guy to do so as well is a double victory in my book. Not only have the original team got it right, but they are showing the newer team members the same good habits.
As far as I can remember, the next step is positive reinforcement of the good practices...
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Lillian, I agree with our colleagues here that you have NOT failed, you have succeeded. They wear their PPE.
I have the same experience as Ray, above, on a weekly basis. One day a week I audit a client's gangs who are road/footpath-working and I can guarantee I will observe hard hats going on heads when they see me coming, or the man sawing the tarmac will see me, he'll put down his saw, put on his goggles and dust mask and then continue (he is already wearing a hard hat and ear protection!).
I might see 20 operatives in a day and just one or two let us down with not wearing PPE from the start of the job. Yes, we have regular toolbox talks on each type of PPE (I do try and vary the presentations). They also get audited by the principal contractor AND being a high visibility occupation they do get visits from HSE inspectors, and even had a Prohibition Notice last year for a gang not wearing dust masks - the client knows they can be prosecuted if the inspector comes along again and .....
I think if they didn't have to wear hard hats all the time then they would be more likely to remember when to wear masks or goggles or ear protectors. As Ray said above you have to have sympathy for these guys when the temperatures like this week are in the high 20s Celsius.
John
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Well done Lillian, it's factually true, you do want them too.
Regards.
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