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Hello, I've been asked to do a presentation on "making an impact in your first 60 days to improve Health & Safety / Environment at an SME undergoing rapid growth".
Just wondering if anyone has anything to add to the thoughts I've put together so far?
Thanks in advance for any (positive) suggestions or ideas
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My initial thoughts were don't go for the job - but needs must I suppose. Who dreams up this facile nonsense?
The lack of detail including any sight of your own thoughts makes this a difficult thread to comment on. More meat on the bone I respectfully suggest.
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Mmm, soft issues rather than hard ones I suspect are at the core of this question. How will you gain acceptance when arriving as the new kid on the block?. What strategies will you use to both ensure rapid (60 days) progress and ease your integration into the company? Rapid growth usually brings people feeling uneasy about change, suspicious of incomers etc etc. What strategies to coach/lead/champion any necessary changes to OSH in the SME?
The hard stuff like a gap audit etc is self explanatory I would think. Usual suspect stuff really.
hth
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My answer to this would be simple:
"I am not able to answer that question as I have no first hand knowledge of what you already have in place, where everything is in order and where there might be shortcomings. So any suggestions on my part at this stage could be irrelevant to your workplace."
Chris
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Chris I think yours is the correct answer.
Jumping through hoops to get a job is in my opinion not necessary and only proves a person is good at interviews. (And jumping through hoops)
My 16 year old school leaver son was recently destroyed by an interviewer at a group interview for an apprenticeship as a warehouse/delivery operative.
No qualifications required although he has GCSE and B-tec certificates but he was as I say destroyed and can't see the point in going for more interviews.
He was put under so much pressure that he came out in tears, he is six feet two inches tall and plays rugby by the way.
Say no more as my rant is over.
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But Chris and Firesafety, isn't that just the point? You can't know that detail so why would they be expecting you to answer that way when they know you are starting from scratch?
Reading the question it includes 'impact', '60 days' and 'undergoing rapid growth'. It doesn't say anything about the current state of OSH other than seeking 'improvement'. It may be absolutely fine just now but there is a concern that the rate of expansion is putting it at risk; it may already be poor and the worry is how to stop it getting worse before it improves; it may be dire. You cannot know the culture or personality of the company either. So what skills/strategies will you employ to make an impact within 60 days irrespective of what you find.
I could go on but my point is that I think the mistake that candidates often make is that they assume their legal and technical knowledge are being examined and lose sight of the softer people skills and recognition of human factors that are often the key element of such interviews.
That is certainly my experience from sitting on the other side of interviews. In the final selection process if you don't match the person profile they are looking for then you can have all the quals and tech skills in the world and you still won't get the job.
I would be interested to know what options there are to holding interviews for final selection that would be less stressful for both the candidate and employer. I can see that the style of interview chosen is important but how else could it be done?
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You say what you think they want to hear in order to get the job. It's all very well talking about facile nonsense and "i can't answer that question" but none of that seems very helpful to me. I can't imagine an interviewer being very impressed by any of that. This is an SME so they obviously haven't got a huge HR department full of recruitment specialists. They are what they are ---- a small company trying to recruit someone to help them out with health and safety so my suggestion would be that you approach the interview in that way.
If it was me I would talk about trying to get to know people. Speaking to people (managers and shop floor) to get an idea of what they think the problems are. I would look at the systems all ready in place to see how effective they are. I would try to introduce some initiatives that are interactive such as near miss reporting and safety inspections conducted by senior managers and shop floor workers combined. I would ensure that there were regular feedback sessions on any issues found.
I don't know if you have thought of these but those are just a few of my ideas
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As someone who has recently been on both sides of the interviewing 'fence' I think that it this method has massive positives.....
For the interviewer it gives an insight on how the candidate can impart their knowledge or expertise - we recently recruited a new H&S person for one of our sites who will need to give toolbox talks and deliver training etc so it was an ideal way for the second interview to be commenced with the candidates' 30/100/300 days plan. For the first 30 days its the obvious induction and business learning but also meeting the relevant key personnel and building a rapport with them (gaining their trust etc). 100/300 days planning came from discussions that we had had at Interview 1 (for us it was key deliverables like OSHAS 18001 and COMAH).
The other thing that I'd include in the first 30 days would relate to a gap analysis - is the site legally compliant across all of its areas? Does the candidate have any technical 'weaknesses' eg for our COMAH site, process safety is a key fundamental, so our new bod will need to development here?
Personally, I think that the presentation method can be a good tool as long as its being done for the right reasons.
Pete
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This is very common, and I can sort of see the point of it. However, I think that at the moment employers have the whip hand - there are so many competent people about chasing so few jobs they can make outrageous demands at interveiw. For instance I recently had to do a presentation then 2 panel interviews for a zero hours NEBOSH teaching job - for which I have nearly 10 years experience and have had 100% pass rates. I also had to fill in a multi page application form - "they did not accept CVs "for safeguarding reasons"!!!! Explain that one!
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I hate interviews and this sort of question is the reason I don’t like ‘em. You could take this in two ways: On the face of it, this could be simply about the self-aggrandizement of some sad people who watch and take ‘The Apprentice’ seriously. Or these people could be trying to do their best but feel that they have to use this stupid language. A better question might be “How are you going to sell Health and Safety in a SME without putting up everybody’s back?” As people have pointed there are loads of H&S people who can quote legislation and understand how to apply good H&S principles in various technical situations but cannot get this message across and manage upset the people that they are trying to help.
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I agree with Rees21880
Also think about positive things, promoting leading indicators like safety observations, safety walks with managers, KPI reporting to promote friendly rivalry between departments
Also, go on the companies website and find out their corporate values. Include them in your presentation, managers love that stuff. Get a feel for their brand, make your presentation look like something that could of come from their comms department.
Sell yourself and you will get the job over someone who says "I feel that I can't answer that question as I don't know what you already have in place"
Good luck
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If this is for a job interview, why not ask them about their existing safety management regime and where they perceive their weaknesses to be? You may get a valuable insight in to what they hope any new person in the job will achieve or you may get no information whatsoever. However by making the enquiry you will be showing a real interest in their organisation and may stand out from other candidates.
However, if this is only a study assignment then all the generic stuff mentioned by others is good advice.
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I would advise that an in depth Initial Status Review should take place within the first instance with the findings bought to the attention of the senior members of the company. Following on from the Initial Status Review produce a health and safety activity plan with short, medium and long term objectives.
Also the production of a training needs analysis and skills matrix conducted right across the board. Production and distribution of your training course listing to all interested parties would also need to be done.
Finally within the first 60 days you would be on a fast track learning curve yourself getting to know the processes and most important of all the people.
60 days is not long at all, in fact only eight weeks which will make or break you.
Good luck and all the best
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The original post does not mention it is a job interview so have we all failed by assuming it is?
If it is a job interview what level is it for? Manager, assistant etc.
It is a good idea to ask for info on the current status of the safety regime, in my opinion.
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The post title states Presentation at job interview.
I have had to do a similar presentation for my current post. I thought it was the best way to tell the organisation what I could offer without waiting for them to ask questions and me carefully choosing how to cover everything I have to say and answer the question they asked. You can make this work for you! You must research the business and know what they do. I was able to quote snippits of information from our annual report to the Directors which seemed to impress them. Start by identifying likely hazards and how this affects thier business. Explain how you will implement a safety management system (explain each stage and what makes you doing this better than another candidate), identify how you will measure KPI's and finally finish on your goars both professionally and where you want to see the organisation short/long term. Best of luck with it. Kevin
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Goals not goars!!!!
Again, edit function?
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Why don't you start by saying 'learning what policies and procedures you have in place, getting to know how the employees have so far responded to H&S. Getting to know the workings of the area. Changing little so that the future is clearer.
I have just been through the same, I got the job, but was asked what was I going to do in the first months I told them that and getting to know the staff and managers. I also told them that I will never pass anyone working or acting in an unsafe manner and not challenge them and I didn't care who they were or what level they were in the company.
Unfortunately you always have to jump through hoops, even if your self employed someone will always ask for something to prove you can do the job.
As for interviews if people allowed thier kids to join the workforce and stopped mollycoddling them then maybe not everything would be so frightening.
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Respond by stating that improving H&S is not down to one person and, whatever your bring to the party, it will require all at the company to 'ratchet' up their inputs and commitment, proportional to the level of improvement they expect to see.
I can see another..... he/she's responsible for H&S, the new guy over there!
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I would go for -
Meet and great (a statement of intent) i.e. sell the dream. I would go into what is your "big idea", what we are working towards. I am just about to go through the same type of scenario and I think the same kind of ideas across the industry always come back to "we should get home in the same state we arrived at work", working towards zero accidents.
I would also, as already stated by another contributor, carry out an analysis with managers of their sites., are they legally compliant, improvement opportunities. The analysis would take place alongside managers for hand over of ownership and devised targets to them.
Good luck!
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I think its a reasonable topic to ask you to present on. Some good pointes provided.
Given such a short period 6o days - I'd make sure you got in relationship building with all stakeholders from the shop floor to the board.
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