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One for the fire experts. Is this right?
Rich
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Rich,
I have seen this done a couple of times. its a lazy way and when exposed to head can swell on the surface of the architrave and cause the door to jamb in place. It is sometimes done whem retro fitting where there is a gap between the door and architrave and the intumescent strip fits in nicely. They should be routed into the door or the frame, or both in the case of double doors. This allows the swell to gap the 2-3mm without over swell.
Kevin
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Heat not Head!!!!!!!!!
we need an edit function!
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I've been asked to supply a bit more detail.
In a residential care home I do a bit of work for I have noticed that the intumescent strips have been glued to the architrave (door surround) and not routed into the door it self.
I asked if this was right meaning is this acceptable to any BS Standard. Kevkel said it was a lazy way and could cause the door to jamb.
Expert opinions sought please.
Rich
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Is the glue suitable in a fire, considering it is on a fire door?
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I would take them out and get them fitted correctly.
Kevkel is correct, it' just lazy.
From my knowledge no manufactures of intumescent seals would state this would be an acceptable method of fitting and the products would not of been tested this way. Meaning there will be no fire test certification that demostrates this method of fitting is acceptable.
However, there is a product that is surface mounted intumescent seal, so dont get confused with this. It's flatter and wider than normal intumescent seals.
My advice would be, fing out what product has been fitted, speak with the manufacture and they will advise if fitted correctly.
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Lets be clear here about the terminology used as architrave is the often fancy bit of trim used to hide the ugly door frame. If the intumescent strip is fitted flush within the door 'frame' rather than the door edge then I cant see an issue (assuming its been fitted correctly) as this is common practice. If somehow the strip has been 'glued' to the actual architrave (??), that might be another matter altogether Have a look here for fire door info http://www.firesafe.org....passive-fire-protection/ and here for door parts http://www.propertydecor...log/?p=1136#.U86QGKgmxOI
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mssy is absolutely correct - terminology got me.
It's the door frame I'm talking about - silly me!
Rich
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Rich-
I undestood you to mean on the face of the rebated section of the frame that the door closes into. Fitted much like a draught excluder. Is this not the case?
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If it was retro fitted is the "fitter" competent and qualified to do do such work?
Anyone who installs fire door sets should be properly trained and certified otherwise things like this can happen.
It takes more than just a joiner.
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kevkel wrote:Rich-
I undestood you to mean on the face of the rebated section of the frame that the door closes into. Fitted much like a draught excluder. Is this not the case? I thought this might be the case as well If so, I really cant see any value, as when the strip expands it will surely tend to push the door away from its closed position - not exactly the best idea to achieve a resilience fire compartment!
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