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ATOMFAB		#1 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:12:40(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		Hi, Can anyone help me out about this issue, A colleague was stung by a wasp, do I need to report this to HSE or what should i do as Health and Safety Officer? Many Thanks Atom
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teh_boy		#2 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:16:18(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Been discussed before.. The question here, and I quote the HSE, is was the wasp "just passing through" i.e. was the was incidental to the work? So a pest control person, stung whilst removing a wasp nest = reportable. Simple.
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safetyamateur		#3 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:25:17(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Report! Provided the sting was so devastating that they could not carry out their normal duties for more than 7 days or the sting broke their arm.
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teh_boy		#4 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:31:12(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Bizarrely My father is allergic to wasp stings - and has been left unable to work as a postie for well over a week due to the swelling and loss of feeling... so maybe possible to meet the requirements... I thought the same as you tho, hard to see, it could be that bad... The trouble with these posts is the lack of info, but we all love a good RIDDOR question.. I had a real good one - sorry to steal the thread but.. When does a chemical burn to the eye become 'serious causing significant damage'? - eye was burnt with conc acid, damaged tear duct, but prognosis is for full recovery after a week of drops.. is that significant? To quote RIDDOR: serious burns (including scalding) which: causes significant damage to the eyes, respiratory system or other vital organs
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safetyamateur		#5 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:38:24(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Agreed, these RIDDOR threads are wonderful springboards into the realms of reality and fantasy. I once knew a bloke who stifled a yawn and spent the next two weeks in a neck brace.
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DP		#6 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:49:24(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		which begs the question - regarding Durham Wasps Rugby Club Do they have a 'B' Team
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safetyamateur		#7 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:52:26(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		OK, I'm at work. Reading this thread arises from my work. That joke just killed me. Reportable?
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Andrew W Walker		#8 Posted : 13 August 2014 15:56:15(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Its a pity that you can't post sounds on here. I'm sure that there would be numerous loud groans after reading #6 Andy
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Moderator 2		#9 Posted : 13 August 2014 22:28:41(UTC)
Rank: Moderator		Please could we remind forum users of the rules for these forums, in particular: ". When using the forums you are expected at all times to be polite and respectful towards all forum users including the Forum Moderators and IOSH employees. 2.1. Please remember our forums are used by guests who might be new to the profession or to IOSH and at times may not have a background in occupational safety and health."
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Animax01		#10 Posted : 14 August 2014 08:55:56(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I have an engineer that is allergic to wasp stings but is also allergic to the epi-pen! Figure that out!?!
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jodieclark1510		#11 Posted : 14 August 2014 08:57:31(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Thats a hard one animax01- what happens if they get stung? That must be an awful situation to be in
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jodieclark1510		#12 Posted : 14 August 2014 08:59:08(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		and ATOMFAB, please don't be put off by some of the comments previously made, there is no such thing as a stupid question in my book.
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PIKEMAN		#13 Posted : 14 August 2014 09:01:48(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		It should be reported on form F2508 BEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ATOMFAB		#14 Posted : 15 August 2014 13:42:52(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		Thanks Everyone, am sure i have got good answer from some and really useful. but i believe that some member needs to be more tolerance towards others, as level of our experience differs, and hence the reason for this forum. No one was born with these experience but we gather it as we move on in our career. Once again thanks to EVERYONE, who has contributed!
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Animax01		#15 Posted : 15 August 2014 16:38:58(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Hi Jodie, yes very difficult indeed! The only way I can really deal with it is wasp avoidance as and where possible, followed by awareness to all first aiders. The first instance that we are aware of a sting its 999 all the way! Preserve an air way if possible.... Let's just hope it does happen. I don't let him outside this time of year ;-)
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chris.packham		#16 Posted : 18 August 2014 11:15:23(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Allergic reactions to epinephrine, the main constituent in the epipen, are extremely rare. If someone does react to the epipen then they should arrange through their GP to be referred to a consultant specialising in allergies (immunologist, dermatologist) for proper investigation and advice. They should be able to carry out tests to ensure that it is the epinephrine that they are reacting to and not one of the other constituents. They can also advise on a possible alternative. There are alternatives to the epinephrine, albeit ones that do have some side-effects. Chris
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Animax01		#17 Posted : 18 August 2014 15:37:04(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Hi Chris, Thanks for that, I will pass this information onto my engineer. It may well save his life at some point! Pete
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redken		#18 Posted : 26 August 2014 11:52:29(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		http://www.hse.gov.uk/ne...ng-in-the-tale220814.htm
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stonecold		#19 Posted : 26 August 2014 12:47:51(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		re. post 18 More bad press....Talk about a laughing stock... Not surprised though if you look at the IOSH discussion forum front page we have a thread on a wasp sting with 913 views and a thread on Asbestos with 307 views... ....says it all really, sometimes im actually embarrassed to work in the safety profession.
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Animax01		#20 Posted : 26 August 2014 12:49:44(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Well put Judith Hackitt.
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colinreeves		#21 Posted : 26 August 2014 13:32:29(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Absolutely
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rusty 01		#22 Posted : 26 August 2014 14:02:12(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I think you will find Judith Hackett's response was aimed at a discussion on the IOSH Group on LinkedIn. if you have the opportunity you should have a view. 70 comments posted ranging from a full investigation to additional PPE etc. We moan about our bad name in the press, but sometimes you have to wonder if we deserve it with the responses given! Rusty
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aland76		#23 Posted : 26 August 2014 17:06:57(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I posted on that LinkedIn thread as I was exasperated at the calls for full investigations into a wasp sting, even more so at the calls for people to be stocking all kinds of medication in their first aid kits. I do despair at our profession sometimes... Alan
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