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Nisar19240  
#1 Posted : 21 August 2014 11:56:20(UTC)
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Nisar19240

I am currently working on DSE policy and a question has cropped up regarding entitlements to casual workers. So my question is, are employers responsible for providing eyesight test and basic spectacles to casual workers if they requested one.

(casual workers who can also be called relief staff may be needed/called on as and when basis. There may not be any contractual arrangements in place with them. They have every right to say no to the particular offer. And they are directly paid by the employer for the hours they do).

Please help.
leadbelly  
#2 Posted : 21 August 2014 12:04:08(UTC)
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leadbelly

Surely, all employees have the same rights under the Regs?

LB
jodieclark1510  
#3 Posted : 21 August 2014 12:45:42(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

If while at work they spend on avaerage an hour or more on the computer they are classed as dse users, therefore you should once they have completed their probationary period offer the same as you would the other staff
leadbelly  
#4 Posted : 21 August 2014 12:51:28(UTC)
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leadbelly

Jodie You're right; I should have said 'users' rather than 'employees'.

LB
jodieclark1510  
#5 Posted : 21 August 2014 12:59:38(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

leadbelly,

I am trying to sort out dse for all of our staff I have users on the brain at present- trying to explain who is and who isn't!
chris42  
#6 Posted : 21 August 2014 13:20:01(UTC)
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chris42

jodieclark1510 wrote:
therefore you should once they have completed their probationary period offer the same as you would the other staff


Reg 5

(2) Any eye and eyesight test provided in accordance with paragraph (1) shall–

(a)in any case to which sub-paragraph (a) of that paragraph applies, be carried out as soon as practicable after being requested by the user concerned; and .
(b)in any case to which sub-paragraph (b) of that paragraph applies, be carried out before the employee concerned becomes a user.

So where the regulations have "be carried out before the employee concerned becomes a user" does not seem to imply after probationary period (in my company it is 6 months). Whether anyone would actually do anything if you say after probationary period is another matter.

Chris
Canopener  
#7 Posted : 21 August 2014 13:38:50(UTC)
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Canopener

The regs refers to both users and operators (self employed people working within an employers undertaking).

The OP has referred to casual employees, and as far as I can see the regs makes no mention of this and nor does it make reference to probationary period.

I would suggest that the various duties and entitlements start at day one, regardless of whether they are casual (and I accept that they could 'walk away' the day after having an eye sight test) or still under a probabationary period.
firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 21 August 2014 14:31:11(UTC)
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firesafety101

jodieclark1510 wrote:
If while at work they spend on avaerage an hour or more on the computer they are classed as dse users, therefore you should once they have completed their probationary period offer the same as you would the other staff


5 minutes 13 times during the day ?
jodieclark1510  
#9 Posted : 21 August 2014 14:38:26(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

wow wish I hadn't said anything
Nisar19240  
#10 Posted : 21 August 2014 15:33:01(UTC)
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Nisar19240

fab. thank you.
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