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paulw71  
#1 Posted : 03 September 2014 13:52:46(UTC)
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paulw71

http://s.telegraph.co.uk...-surrounds-us/index.html

For those that are interested.
Regards
Bigmac1  
#2 Posted : 03 September 2014 18:13:36(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Powerful article.Still though some do not take it seriously.
Dean Elliot  
#3 Posted : 04 September 2014 07:21:51(UTC)
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Dean Elliot

It's good to see the Telegraph have changed their tune and are no longer spouting this rubbish: http://www.telegraph.co....er-Bookers-Notebook.html
JohnW  
#4 Posted : 04 September 2014 10:13:32(UTC)
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JohnW

Dean #3, from 2002, that was a bad report, something the Telegraph should put in the 'forget' system of Google, and just delete it from the net?

Or should it remain as historical evidence that the risks of asbestos were once very misunderstood by some people?
walker  
#5 Posted : 04 September 2014 11:19:30(UTC)
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walker

JohnW wrote:
Dean #3, from 2002, that was a bad report, something the Telegraph should put in the 'forget' system of Google, and just delete it from the net?

Or should it remain as historical evidence that the risks of asbestos were once very misunderstood by some people?


John,
Dean's reference might be 12 years old, but the DT have been providing a conduit for this idiot far more recently than that - certainly (if my memory is not playing up!) in the past 4 years.
Littlejohn (can't remember which rag) also jumped on the bandwaggon.


achrn  
#6 Posted : 04 September 2014 11:23:17(UTC)
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achrn

JohnW wrote:
Dean #3, from 2002, that was a bad report, something the Telegraph should put in the 'forget' system of Google, and just delete it from the net?

Or should it remain as historical evidence that the risks of asbestos were once very misunderstood by some people?


John Bridle maintains that white asbestos is benign (I think he doesn't go quite so far as to say it's good for you). That article is just regurgitating his output. It's still very much current, not historical - he's still promulgating the same view.

This is the chap /organisation that made an ASA complaint about the HSE 'Hidden Killer' campaign. See http://www.asa.org.uk/Ru...cutive/TF_ADJ_46957.aspx

You can read more at http://www.asbestoswatchdog.co.uk/home . This claims to be the website of a company he owns, but on at least one occasion he's made a newspaper print an apology when it printed statements from that website but he said he'd never said that - 'He further states that he had no control over content on his Asbestos Watchdog website, including its claim - quoted in our article - that he was "the world's foremost authority on asbestos science"'.)

Or a google for 'John Bridle asbestos' will give you all sorts of stuff.
paulw71  
#7 Posted : 04 September 2014 11:51:56(UTC)
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paulw71

Quote from the Guardian on Messrs Brooker and Bridle and his spurious claims.

Asbestos

Booker has now written 42 articles downplaying the risks of white asbestos. His main informant is a man called John Bridle. Bridle has described himself as "the world's foremost authority on asbestos science". He has claimed to possess an honorary professorship from the Russian Academy of Sciences, to be a consultant to an institute at the University of Glamorgan, the chief asbestos consultant for a European Asbestos Accreditation Centre in Lisbon, and a consultant to Vale of Glamorgan trading standards department. None of these claims is true. Neither the institute at the University of Glamorgan nor the centre in Lisbon have ever existed. His only relationship with the Glamorgan trading standards department is that he has been successfully prosecuted by the department for claiming a qualification he does not possess.

This has not stopped Booker from repeatedly citing Bridle as an expert, and using his claims to dismiss the scientific work on the subject. Several times the health and safety executive has tried to correct Booker's false claims, but he has kept repeating them, even claiming – wrongly – that the executive's own work supports them.
paulw71  
#8 Posted : 04 September 2014 11:56:23(UTC)
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paulw71

Quote from the Guardian on Messrs Brooker and Bridle and his spurious claims.

Asbestos

Booker has now written 42 articles downplaying the risks of white asbestos. His main informant is a man called John Bridle. Bridle has described himself as "the world's foremost authority on asbestos science". He has claimed to possess an honorary professorship from the Russian Academy of Sciences, to be a consultant to an institute at the University of Glamorgan, the chief asbestos consultant for a European Asbestos Accreditation Centre in Lisbon, and a consultant to Vale of Glamorgan trading standards department. None of these claims is true. Neither the institute at the University of Glamorgan nor the centre in Lisbon have ever existed. His only relationship with the Glamorgan trading standards department is that he has been successfully prosecuted by the department for claiming a qualification he does not possess.

This has not stopped Booker from repeatedly citing Bridle as an expert, and using his claims to dismiss the scientific work on the subject. Several times the health and safety executive has tried to correct Booker's false claims, but he has kept repeating them, even claiming – wrongly – that the executive's own work supports them.
peter gotch  
#9 Posted : 04 September 2014 13:22:04(UTC)
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peter gotch

We don't want the 2002 article deleted as there's been lots of similar commentary much more recently.

www.theguardian.com/.../...topher-booker-misleading

Attracted a complaint to PCC but Guardian didn't change much of its comment.
bob youel  
#10 Posted : 05 September 2014 07:33:47(UTC)
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bob youel

banned or not it was only recently that yet another builder was caught putting asbestos sheeting into a building!
johnmurray  
#11 Posted : 06 September 2014 11:52:40(UTC)
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johnmurray

Funny.
While watching the antics of licenced asbestos operatives opposite...removing ¨white¨ asbestos sheeting from soffits....cover the windows with polythene film...remove sheeting....put sheeting in enclosed container....take off face masks....get into van while still wearing dust covered overalls...drive away.
They were SUPPOSED to have walk-through de-contamination in place.
Apparently, my house has asbestos in the artex covering, and in the floor tiling...and in the ceiling boards.
From my early childhood days, I vividly remember gas masks (second world-war era)....which were filled with a pretty blue powder...

http://www.dailymail.co....ps-contain-ASBESTOS.html

http://www.asbestos.com/asbestos/types.php
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