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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 12 September 2014 11:01:30(UTC)
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firesafety101

A Disabled Facility Grant grant is awarded to a disabled person by a council for adaptation to her home for use by the disabled person. The disabled person is 13 years of age.

The council choose the contractors and provide payment for the work. The council choose the Architect and pay for his services.

CDM does not apply to domestic clients so if the disabled person is the client no notification, CDM Coordinator, PC etc.

If the Council is the client then I would think CDM will apply with all above duty holders involved.




bob youel  
#2 Posted : 12 September 2014 11:29:54(UTC)
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bob youel

a 13 year old cannot be a legal client so it is the council and this happens all the time on a daily basis with 100's of thousands of such jobs every year

CDM does apply but U also have to consider what is reasonably practicable in these circumstances e.g. what can the council do on a daily to ensure adequate management on a job in a domestic premises even where a CDMC is involved noting that if there is a H&S problem e.g. the workers cause a S:3 person to have an accident then the IP would have the same rights as they would do if the job was not in their home
achrn  
#3 Posted : 12 September 2014 11:39:23(UTC)
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achrn

Surely it is clearly the case that the council is the client. It's irrelevant who the work benefits.

For example, if a council commissions strengthening or repair of a road bridge, that's for the benefit of the highway-users at that location, not the council or its employees (unless they happen to be highway-users at that location). That doesn't mean the residents of the road in question are the client.
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 12 September 2014 11:55:04(UTC)
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firesafety101

Thanks Bob and achrn,

At present the work has been 24 days when work has been done on site, tomorrow will be day 25.

There is floor laying, decoration, joinery, electrics, heating (radiator) and external works to be done and I don't think they will finish by Friday next, day 30.

Does snagging count for days working on site?

boblewis  
#5 Posted : 12 September 2014 19:21:57(UTC)
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boblewis

I always work on the basis of practical completion and handover as the end of he project, so snagging should be included.

Client issue is easy - Who issues the contract -not the grant recipient. Therefore this is strictly not domestic category under CDM. It is work carried out in domestic premises by a client liable under CDM for duties set out. Designers ALWAYS have responsibilities.

Bob
firesafety101  
#6 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:38:05(UTC)
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firesafety101

Thanks Bob, I was sure I was sure but it's always nice to hear your view.
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