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Hello All
Need some confirmation in regards to writing Lifting Plans.
I understand the competent / responsible person is tasked to write the lifting plan, however have been told that only the Appointed Person can only write these.
Can anyone clarify if this is correct please.
Thank You.
Allan
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Allan
Here I am once again promoting the CPA they have some very good downloads on this and they are free. BS7121 part 1 would help.
If you are working on a UKCG site they would want an Appointed Person Lifting Operations to do it. Smaller companies use competet responsible persons. It is trying to define who is the competent responsible person and what training they have had.
Ta Alex
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Hi Allan, the need for an appointed person will depend on the complexity of the lifting operation. As detailed within the various regulations and guidance all lifts should be suitably planned, but every situation will be different.
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Hi Allan,
An appointed person who is trained and certified as per BS 7121 is required to prepare any lifting plan..
regards,
Pradeesh
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If a lift is complex enough to need a lift plan (in the first place) I believe it needs a qualified person to write it.
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I used to be able to quote the Paragraph in the ACoP (137 rings a bell), but it isn't necessary to have a lifting plan being written by an "Appointed Person" for simple lifts, which begs the question, why would a PC want one for such as a Genie Lift activity (SL-15 for example), but they sometimes they do, and it's their prerogative.
The complication hit my desk 6 months ago when a PC suggested, as H&S advisor on site, I should sit the 5 day course (£1,000 & 5 days) for a 15 minute lift, inside using hire equipment - Although I'm not against such controls, as 2 people were injured later that month in similar operations. There should be a recognised course for simple lifts.
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ADALE wrote: There should be a recognised course for simple lifts. CITB run slingers & riggers course that are OK according to the ACOP Personally I prefer a lift supervisors course as minimium
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