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I haven't used these forum's for a while so I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this.
I have a query about reporting an incident that I wouuld like some advice on. The query is this:- If someone was on two days of training and was booked into a hotel (that the company paid for) overnight and whilst using the hotel restaurant they fell and injured themselves (not a RIDDOR injury), but were then away from work/normal work duties for over 7 days - would this be RIDDOR reportable or not?
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No it is not deemed as a workplace activity.
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Royle22878 wrote:I haven't used these forum's for a while so I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this.
I have a query about reporting an incident that I wouuld like some advice on. The query is this:- If someone was on two days of training and was booked into a hotel (that the company paid for) overnight and whilst using the hotel restaurant they fell and injured themselves (not a RIDDOR injury), but were then away from work/normal work duties for over 7 days - would this be RIDDOR reportable or not?
If it were me I would ring HSE to confirm, it may not be the workplace, but it is in relation to work.
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Is it not a workplace activity from the point of view of the hotel in respect of a visitor having an accident on their premises. Was an accident report completed by the IP at the hotel? and did the hotel investigate the accident?
Has the hotel been informed that the IP was off work/normal work for over 7 days and as such should they now report the accident as RIDDOR? (I'm not sure)- (or is this reporting only required if taken straight to hospital which of course the IP wasn't).
The IP (or through their solicitor) should request copies of all documents if they wish to pursue the matter particularly if they have lost earnings.
Rich
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As a guide - I suppose it is just a guide - the HSE RIDDOR webpage has a 'Key Definitions' paragraph which says
An accident is ‘work-related’ if any of the following played a significant role:
1. the way the work was carried out
2. any machinery, plant, substances or equipment used for the work
3. the condition of the site or premises where the accident happened
So for number 3. In the hotel, what made him fall? Did he slip on a wet floor? A dodgy stair carpet?
If there were no hazards where the accident happened i.e. it was clumsiness, then 3. doesn't apply???
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I don't think it's reportable by either the employer or the hotel.
Employer:
Remember the point of RIDDOR is to help the authorities identify dangerous work (broadly). EG if you run a garage fixing cars they want to know the nasty things that happen to you fixing cars, stocking the stores and doing the accounts, not nipping out to the shops for a sandwich or staying in a hotel while away at a car-fixing trade show. I wouldn't see staying in the hotel as "work" (even though it's because of work), so the three tests are a bit of a red herring here, and any report would be unhelpful to those trying to identify work-related dangers to workers.
Hotel:
The IP is a member of the public, and so his injury would be reportable only if he was taken from the scene to hospital.
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I'm with Animax, not at work, injury not arising from work, not reportable,
John
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