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Could someone please point me in the direction of the legislation requiring landlords to conduct legionella risk assessments please?
I would also be interested to know how many people are doing it.
Many thanks,
Wayne.
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Management of water systems to ensure control of Legionella comes from Control of Substances Hazardous to Health regs and H&S at Work Act. L8 is the ACOP that provides information on how to manage water systems to maintain safety.
I work for a Social Landlord and we have many water risk assessments and control measures including sentinal temperature monitoring and sampling. We are currently reviewing the processes to ensure that we follow the new L8 guidance
Hope this helps
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Wayne,
also have a look at HSG274. However, I would recommend you get competent people in to advise you.
all best
Mick
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Sorry I didn't make this clear, but I am talking about landlords of private houses, not landlords of work premises. Is this legislation still relevant?
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Hopeful wrote:Management of water systems to ensure control of Legionella comes from Control of Substances Hazardous to Health regs and H&S at Work Act. L8 is the ACOP that provides information on how to manage water systems to maintain safety.
I work for a Social Landlord and we have many water risk assessments and control measures including sentinal temperature monitoring and sampling. We are currently reviewing the processes to ensure that we follow the new L8 guidance
Hope this helps
Does this apply to landlords of private dwellings?
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Not applicable in private dwellings.
Unless the tenant is being cared for by a care provider, now H&SAWA applies, their is also a good chance that if they are receiving care they may fall into the category of vunerable people. This applies more so where the private dwelling is a House of Multiple Occupancy (HMO).
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So as a landlord of a private dwelling there is no legal duty to carry out a legionella risk assessment, is that correct?
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But is that not aimed at the workplace?? I am talking about residential (private dwelling).
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The dwelling may be a private abode but the landlord is still running a business so they have statute and civil law landlord duties to adequately maintain on behalf of their 'private' tenants
However as a landlord myself in the past I did not go as far as carrying out legionella nor other types of tests inside the private home nor have what could be seen as a formal legionella management system and the local council was more than happy with this approach and as far as I am aware an average landlord with average tenants in single house accommodation does not have a specific legal duty to manage legionella as one would do in a work situation or similar as already noted in the same way as fire and other areas noting that this is a private persons home
Talk to your local EHO's/Building control dept (if such things still exist noting the current cuts!!) as they should be able to give more up to date advice but I doubt if the local council would be too bothered with a situation you describe and this is probably outside the HSE's remit
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Are there 5 people on the deeds If not no written RA required. The chances of legionella occurring in occupied Domestic premises are very low so this is the latest jobsworth scam.
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What Bob says.
Making money from renting out property is a business thus HASWA applies.
However, for the love of all that is good in the world, don't go mad. Keep everything in proportion - a 'normal' house with constant occupancy is very likely to be low risk.
HSG274 Part 2 talks about making checks at the same time as other statutory checks such as gas appliances i.e. once a year.
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Please refer to the HSE guidance part 2 Legionella - it states that anyone providing residential accommodation to residents or tenants etc have to manage the risk. All properties are required to have schematics but there are guides to phase this in. In many street access properties this could be a very simple water assessment but it has to be done.
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