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Hi Ladies/Gents
Can someone provide some advice on the below:
A 1960's large commercial building has a change of use for an area (an office space changes to a plant room). An R&D survey was complete before works were complete and asbestos removed. The area has now been (the new plant room) has been enclosed in plasterboard.
Q: does the owner/duty holder of the building have a duty to detail this in the AMP to demonstrate that, although asbestos has been removed, the area is being managed (or dealt with accordingly by removing the ACMs) and keep records of this for the user to clearly identify the area is safe.
Q: Do asbestos surveys have to map or make mention to the areas of the building they have visited? Or can they survey just discount the area the surveyor has not visited? (I am not confident that an area has been visited do to this not being mapped or mentioned as a visited area).
Thanks
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jarsmith83 wrote:Hi Ladies/Gents
Can someone provide some advice on the below:
A 1960's large commercial building has a change of use for an area (an office space changes to a plant room). An R&D survey was complete before works were complete and asbestos removed. The area has now been (the new plant room) has been enclosed in plasterboard.
Q: does the owner/duty holder of the building have a duty to detail this in the AMP to demonstrate that, although asbestos has been removed, the area is being managed (or dealt with accordingly by removing the ACMs) and keep records of this for the user to clearly identify the area is safe.
Q: Do asbestos surveys have to map or make mention to the areas of the building they have visited? Or can they survey just discount the area the surveyor has not visited? (I am not confident that an area has been visited do to this not being mapped or mentioned as a visited area).
Thanks
Q1. In my opinion, for the purposes of the Asbestos Management Plan you can state that asbestos was found in the now new plant room, it has been delt with and the area enclosed and thus is fully safe. No harm in putting it in I think, in another 60 years the premises may be changes again and the AMP will tell them that that particular area is ok. Q2. Perhaps for your own reference next time specify that the surveryor do mapping to stipulate all areas visited/ not visited? Perhaps ask for them to come back to 'go through' the AMP with you and then raise this as a query?
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Q1. Assuming the ACMs have been removed I see no point in an AMP for that area. However, you could keep a simple register which could identify that ACMs have been removed, when, where, type, etc.
Q2. The assumption is that there IS asbestos if the area has not been surveyed. You mentioned earlier that a R&D survey was undertaken, which should have been a thorough and intrusive inspection regime for all areas. If, for any reason, a building or area has not been surveyed then this could be identified in the asbestos register and, there is a good argument it should be part of an AMP. I suggest Regulation 4. of CAR 2012 needs to be considered and applied.
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