I see they can now demand to look in your house and if you dont let them perhaps a fine ?


http://www.hse.gov.uk/fi...age-club-association.htm

No.

The link clearly states that this is enforced by the Petroleum Enforcement Authority, not the HSE.

For the benefit of others the legal powers are not new; the Petroleum Enforcement Authority ( ie the local council) have since the 1920's had the power the make sure that people do not store excessive amounts of petrol in their homes ( for obvious reasons).
The current rules actually relax the limits in the amount of petrol you can store( from 20 to 30 litres)

Why do we have to presume that just because there is useful information on the HSE Website, then HSE has direct enforcement jurisdictio

So can the PEA demand to inspect your private domestic dwellings on a whim ? The HSE can inspect your business premises without any due cause perhaps it is the same.

Taken directly from the HSE .pdf guidance file
"Are there any changes to powers of entry?
The Regulations are made under the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 (HSWA). If required, PEAs can therefore use the powers conferred on them under section 20 (Powers of inspectors) and section 25 (Power to deal with cause of imminent danger) of the HSWA. So the new Regulations do not carry forward the provisions of section 18 of the Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928 relating to powers of entry."


For those that may not know the details; Section 18 of the 1928 Act covered the issue of warrants to search and remove where "satisfied by information on oath that there is reasonable ground for suspecting" etc.
Thus no real change just a similar power under different laws. Another conspiracy theory flattened or maybe just not understanding that the power has existed for a long time?


So, a more interesting question might be that if the powers are now held under the HASAWA 1974 does this, by default, exclude my home, when only used as my home, from the jurisdiction? I guess not as it would fall into "controlling the keeping and use of explosive or highly flammable or otherwise dangerous substances, and generally preventing the unlawful acquisition, possession and use of such substances". This is clearly a separate phrase from the "HSW in connection with work" in the intro text of the Act. Any thoughts?

p48

I entirely agree with your sentiments Canopener

My understanding is that if you pay a small fee in advance that the relevant enforcement body will also hoover you carpets, wash your car and iron your laundry.

These and similar postings are just vexatious threads and have very little merit.

This is not the first time this has happened and perpetrated by the same individual - indeed why do the Mods refuse to take any action - I'm guessing part of the answer is contained within Pete48's post

BJC

I am curious if you extend that logic to other warrant card holders?

Andrew

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