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Sendall23502  
#1 Posted : 02 December 2014 13:37:56(UTC)
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Sendall23502

Although we have reasonable fire marshal cover in all of our 5 premises for the majority of the working day we have less cover at the beginning of the day, before 8.30 and end of day after 5. A recent incident which occurred at 8.30 where only 1 fire marshal was present, out of 8, caused the local fire service some concern.I cannot find any guidance on how the responsible person is expected to ensure adequate fire marshal cover during these periods and outside of normal working hours when we have evening groups running. Any opinion much appreciated.
mssy  
#2 Posted : 02 December 2014 18:45:03(UTC)
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mssy

We have the same problem in that one of our buildings is occupied by a few staff for two hours either end of the main core hours. It is impossible to supply fire wardens at these times, therefore as we can identify the group of workers who work 'out of core hours' we ensure they receive two training sessions a year, to the core hours staff annual session. The addition session is in the form of a briefing rather than a full two hour session. During the briefing, the evacuation plan is discussed along with the 'Out of Core' emergency plan which does not rely on fire wardens doing a sweep, but uses a roll call instead with key roles defined to take charge of the roll call. It works for us, so it might be worth considering two evac systems that dovetail together at a designated time Good luck
jwk  
#3 Posted : 03 December 2014 09:39:23(UTC)
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jwk

Hi Sendall, hate to say this but what you need to do is go back to your risk assessment and check that it covers this situation. Fire safety law is risk based (as you know) and uses a test of reasonable practicability, which is something local fire officers sometimes forget or ignore. It's up to you how you manage the risk, and down to what is reasonable and practicable for you. The guidance on the fire safety order in England has no legal status, so use it where you can, but don't rely on it, John
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