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On site accident, should the CDM C be interested?
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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 02 December 2014 17:02:18(UTC)
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firesafety101
As per the subject title, I know it is not the duty of CDM C to investigate accidents but I just wonder how much interest should he take? Accident not reportable under RIDDOR but does indicate lack of control over sub contractor.
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RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 02 December 2014 17:17:56(UTC)
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Actually it's the PC's responsibility to investigate accidents - save for the rare exception. The Client may have an interest from a holistic perspective. However, it's not normally the role of the CDM-C to intervene, unless specifically requested to do so by the Client.
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bob youel  
#3 Posted : 02 December 2014 17:34:25(UTC)
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bob youel
nothing to do with the CDMC unless the CDMC has been commissioned in some way in addition to the requirements of the regs to look at accidents noting that many CDMC's are not necessarily H&S people
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firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 02 December 2014 20:54:11(UTC)
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firesafety101
As I thought, thanks Bob and Ray. The Client is aware and emailed the CDM C a week or so after the accident.
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ashleywillson  
#5 Posted : 03 December 2014 08:33:05(UTC)
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ashleywillson
I would say yes - about 75% of the time! And most other people should too. Educating the workforce following an accident may prevent recurrence. I don't think he (or she!) needs to know because he is CDM C, but rather may need to know to prevent him having the same accident!
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jarsmith83  
#6 Posted : 03 December 2014 10:32:54(UTC)
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I would have thought yes depending on the incident itself. If the incident is to do with a design feature, then this would very much be in the interest of the CDM-C.
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6foot4  
#7 Posted : 03 December 2014 15:54:16(UTC)
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6foot4
I would certainly be asking the PC to provide an indication of their findings so that if the Construction Phase Plan needs to be reviewed and amended to prevent reoccurrence as a result that this is carried out.
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bob youel  
#8 Posted : 04 December 2014 12:03:12(UTC)
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bob youel
Where is the clients and PC's health and safety person in all this as it is via they that such questions should be put etc. and then they can update others e.g. the CDMC Time and time again I go on sites and note that most players know about the CDMC but the H&S professional is nowhere to be seen / nobody knows that they exist?? What are we doing to the profession as its bad enough that the profession is low profile in the outside world but inside we should be high profiling our own profession as the priority especially with regards to accidents NB: I act as a CDMC so I am not on one sided
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RayRapp  
#9 Posted : 05 December 2014 08:59:19(UTC)
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RayRapp
Hmm, some interesting comments post mine and Bob's. I cannot ever recall a CDM-C getting involved in an incident/accident investigation, nor can I recall amending the CPP following an incident. The client often intervenes as is their want...most corporate clients do not a have a CDM-C per se. If they do, it is usually someone who does not have a scooby about safety or CDM Regs!
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