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Can someone explain the difference between 'management systems format' and 'compliance format', in terms of Auditing
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Suspect the difference you are referring to is the scope of the two audits:
- a "management systems audit" is likely to be looking at examining how the organisation meets a particular management systems standard. e.g. what are your arrangements for "x", how do you meet the requirements of clause "y" etc. In the case of H&S this may be OHSAS 18001 for example.
- a "compliance audit" will be more likely be less focused on the management systems side of things but more focused on key legal compliance areas as per legislation etc.
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I think of this rather differently. A management systems audit will be auditing the in-house management system against an external standard such as OHSAS 18000, to check for gaps against a regulatory or legislative framework. SA compliance audit will be checking whether people on-site are doing what they ought to be doing; if the policy says 'Lone working risks will be assessed' a compliance audit would look for such assessments where appropriate.
A system such as RoSPA's QSA does both of these.
That's how I've always thought about it,
John
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thank for replies.....JWK, in summary, a 'Management System Audit' would ask 'is there a procedure in place for Emergency Response', and a Complaince Audit would ask for examples???
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Jon Joe, in summary, yes!
John
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PS; your compliance audit would also ask whether the actions detailed in, say an emergency plan, are being carried out as required,
John
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