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prads  
#1 Posted : 22 January 2015 13:30:07(UTC)
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prads

I'm looking for a sample 7x7 and 8x8 risk assessment matrix. Can someone help?

Regards
Prads
JohnW  
#2 Posted : 22 January 2015 14:21:40(UTC)
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JohnW

prads,

You didn't get back to us in your similar RAM thread last week.
stonecold  
#3 Posted : 22 January 2015 14:24:37(UTC)
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stonecold

prads wrote:
I'm looking for a sample 7x7 and 8x8 risk assessment matrix. Can someone help?

Regards
Prads



Google it, you will find literally hundreds
prads  
#4 Posted : 22 January 2015 14:27:18(UTC)
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prads

Didn't really find a sample matrix with the severity and likelihood criteria.

Regards
Prads
stonecold  
#5 Posted : 22 January 2015 14:30:07(UTC)
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stonecold

Just googled it again to make sure i wasnt going mad. There are actually probably thousands, all with varying types of criteria. if you cant find one amongst those why dont you just create your own?
stonecold  
#6 Posted : 22 January 2015 14:43:10(UTC)
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stonecold

prads wrote:
Didn't really find a sample matrix with the severity and likelihood criteria.

Regards
Prads


Thanks for the recent private messgae asking me to keep my opinions to myself.

I was simply saying that there are many mnay types of the matrix you want on google. Just a click away. So suggested that if you couldnt find one to suit amongst those, you would probaly not be able to get one from anyone else as you obviuosly have a specific need. So writing your own would probably be the best option.

I think that is a very reasonable suggestion.

JohnW  
#7 Posted : 22 January 2015 14:50:54(UTC)
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JohnW

prads,

google 'images for risk assessment matrix 7x7' etc etc and you can quickly SEE all the examples that are out there, copy and then adapt to your requirements

and please follow up your threads!
prads  
#8 Posted : 22 January 2015 14:55:08(UTC)
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prads

Thank you all for the 'Google' lead!

Still didn't find 8x8 matrix criterias. Maybe I'm using a different google :).

I would not be creating one, as I prefer a 5x5 one. I merely wanted to have a look at it.

Thanks anyway.

Regards
jay  
#9 Posted : 22 January 2015 15:12:00(UTC)
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jay

It appears that BP ( what an irony!) uses an 8x8 risk matrix and this presentation, if you look in some detail has the descriptions of both severity i.e.consequence and probabability. Prads, most contributers want to help/support others, but it will help if you give some context to the query.

http://www.mdl2179triald...071500008/TREX-01975.pdf
prads  
#10 Posted : 22 January 2015 15:58:51(UTC)
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prads

Thank you, Jay!
Truly appreciate it.

Regards,
Prads
Ian Bell  
#11 Posted : 22 January 2015 16:24:16(UTC)
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Ian Bell

I am very familiar with the BP risk matrix.

In my experience it is used on high value oil & gas projects - quite obviously by the nature of BP's business.

I'm not too sure how the risk/hazard/frequency descriptors will translate and work in more traditional occupational safety & health risk assessment matrices.

Considerable re-work might be needed. I guess it depends what sector you are working in and your intention for your risk matrix.

Often this sort of matrix is used to feed in to further risk assessments e.g. LOPA risk assessments and SIL risk assessments.
jay  
#12 Posted : 22 January 2015 16:43:23(UTC)
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jay

Ian,

I agree with you, that is why I requested Prads to provide context to his queries. I work for an organisation that uses the Exxon Mobil OIMS Risk Matrix, meant for Oil & Gas/downstream refining & Chemicals activities.

An intersting presentation on the "Risk Matrices -The Good, the Bad and the Ugly:
Common Pitfalls in their Design and Use" , although one has to understand context is at:-

http://isafe.grid.net.sg...trices_good_bad_ugly.pdf
A Kurdziel  
#13 Posted : 22 January 2015 17:06:53(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Why 8 x 8?
Is it because by having lots of numbers it gives the impression that it’s important? In my simple world a 3 x 3 should be enough- Likelihoods being: Won’t happen, might happen, will happen. Severity: really bad, we can manage, not really worried.
Ian Bell  
#14 Posted : 22 January 2015 17:20:30(UTC)
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Ian Bell

A larger risk matrix gives more discrimination in your risk assessment results. However that doesn't imply that they are any more precise.

Often in the process industries, where 'larger' risk matrices seem to be used, risk targets are set using the HSE document 'R2P2' - Reducing Risks, Protecting People.

Within this document risks are presented in terms of frequencies e.g. 10^-3 for workers, 10^4 for members of the public, 10^-6 for ALARP/Broadly Acceptable criteria.

In process industry risk matrices often 10^-1 and 10^-2 is also used.

Consequences are often 5 or 6 categories - from 1 meaning trivial consequences, up to 6 meaning multiple fatalities.

By also using statistical data for frequency of leaks from pipes and tanks/vessels etc - a risk assessment can then be pitched at a level to give an agreed credible score.

Again, I emphasise that it still only gives an order of magnitude answer, but nevertheless there is some engineering/scientific logic/analysis into the risk assessment result - not quite a total guess!!
JohnW  
#15 Posted : 22 January 2015 17:21:22(UTC)
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JohnW

A,

My customer has a 'Possible' and a 'Quite Possible' :o)

and describe as

Possible - several factors need to be present for an accident

Quite possible - under normal conditions will not occur, but will occur in event of a fault or abnormality

so which is the higher likelihood ? :o)

then there's 'Likely' and 'Very Likely' ...............

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