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Morning All,
Can I please ask for help. Its time to review our D&A Policy, which in itself is perfectly fine, in line with our works etc etc....
But there is nothing regarding 'Legal Highs', I've googled as much information as I can on the subject, so have information, but I just wanted to ask if anyone has added this topic to their D&A Policy?
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Hi there
In my opinion you don't need to be that specific, to actually name 'legal highs'.
We use statements in our policy which would cover them though such as:
Illicit use, possession or supply of drugs or other substances, which may result in physical, psychological or behavioural change is prohibited.
Illicit drugs are those substances other than medicines prescribed by a Registered Medical Practitioner (for use by the person to whom they were prescribed), medicines supplied by company medic's or those remedies obtainable from a Registered Pharmacy e.g.: aspirin and common cold remedies etc.
Hope this helps
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Gav81 wrote:Hi there
In my opinion you don't need to be that specific, to actually name 'legal highs'.
We use statements in our policy which would cover them though such as:
Illicit use, possession or supply of drugs or other substances, which may result in physical, psychological or behavioural change is prohibited.
Illicit drugs are those substances other than medicines prescribed by a Registered Medical Practitioner (for use by the person to whom they were prescribed), medicines supplied by company medic's or those remedies obtainable from a Registered Pharmacy e.g.: aspirin and common cold remedies etc.
Hope this helps
Super thanks, there are so many types, its actually shocking, a world I was totally unaware of until I seen it on TV the other night.
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We have illegal highs included as non prescribed substances- the problem with legal highs is so many become illegal over night so you can never truly be sure of them, one minute they are legal then they find something in them that makes them illegal.
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jodieclark1510 wrote:We have illegal highs included as non prescribed substances- the problem with legal highs is so many become illegal over night so you can never truly be sure of them, one minute they are legal then they find something in them that makes them illegal. True, but the persons taking them may think that as they are readily available over the counter that they are ok to take, so I want to re-word the policy in plain English that basically 'so called legal highs are also not allowed'
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hence the non prescribed part (we do include the term legal highs in our policy), you could call them recreational substances aka legal highs, I think most people know about them now and understand where you are coming from
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Your D&A Policy should have something to the effect that anyone taking prescription drugs which may impair their performance...check with their line manager of Occupational Health to ensure they are fit for work.
There must be an onus on personal responsibility as there are many prescribed (as well as non-prescribed) drugs which could be incongruous to safe working. In some cases an alternative drug can be prescribed which is safer.
It does of course depend on the type of role someone is doing - for example, the potential for drowsiness will not be serious for someone working in an office, whereas operating plant and machinery is another matter.
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jodieclark1510 wrote:hence the non prescribed part (we do include the term legal highs in our policy), you could call them recreational substances aka legal highs, I think most people know about them now and understand where you are coming from Fair enough, I must still be in the dark ages! I honestly never knew they existed over the counter. Thanks for the input
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Plus if someone is below the DD limit in England, if they drive across the border they could be over the DD limit in Scotland, 80 to 50mg I believe.
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RockyBalboa wrote:Plus if someone is below the DD limit in England, if they drive across the border they could be over the DD limit in Scotland, 80 to 50mg I believe.
You sure are correct on this. (But at present doesnt apply). Thanks all for your comments/ help.
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Lawlee45239 wrote:RockyBalboa wrote:Plus if someone is below the DD limit in England, if they drive across the border they could be over the DD limit in Scotland, 80 to 50mg I believe.
You sure are correct on this. (But at present doesnt apply). Thanks all for your comments/ help. The change in drink drive limits in Scotland came into effect on 5th December so they do apply as from that date (unless of course you mean it simply doesnt apply to you as your drivers dont enter Scotland).
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If you are reviewing your policy and want to include something which you term as 'legal highs' is may be more appropriate to list examples of potential false positive results rather than a legal high...ibuprofen, decongestants/cold medicines, anti-deporessants, the health amungst us who eat poppy seeds can also give a false positive for opiates...who said white bread was bad for you... :)
Although don't know why you would want to and perhaps it may encouraging staff to use some of these products prior to a test..? synical old me.. :)
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