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Just seen this on the BBC news website - http://www.bbc.co.uk/new...burgh-east-fife-31535814 and my jaw has just hit the floor. The blaze response from the company, suggesting things will improve as the staff gain experience and training. The first aid response - moving somebody with a broken neck and then claiming there is no point calling an ambulance as they will not know where the centre is located. I had a look at their website - http://www.ryzeedinburgh.com/ and their location map shows they are located adjacent to the ambulance station! Finally, if you do a bit of form filling, you can see their legal waiver and agree to it. Never in a month of Sundays. They have placed the onus on the user for inspecting the play equipment before use. The disclaimer is extremely wide ranging and will surely never hold up in court. I hope the council inspectors throw the book at this organisation.
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just from reading the BBC report :
The council have been lax in their initial visit as clearly they did not view the arrangements. Just goes to prove if an organisation does not report then its off the regulatory bodies radar. Another example of cowboys doing what they want most likely to the detriment of nearby entertainments trying to comply with the law.
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walker wrote:just from reading the BBC report :
The council have been lax in their initial visit as clearly they did not view the arrangements
On what basis did you arrive at that conclusion?
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I've had a look at both the BBC report and also the company's own website - and it's proved to be an interesting exercise.
My feeling - and it's no more than that I hasten to add - is that Ryze management, being an American company, are making the fundamental error of assuming that health & safety legislation is the same in the UK as it is in the USA.
For example: if you look at the Safety Rules section of their website (http://www.ryzeedinburgh.com/Safety#97520-safety-rules) you'll see that they are operating within the trampolining standards laid down by the American Society for Testing & Materials (ASTM).
The safety section goes on to claim that "Catastrophic injury, paralysis, or even death may result ... sometimes even if all rules are followed" which is a bit gloomy, to say the least!
I'd be interested to see what their risk assessments and method statements have to say. I wonder who drew them up and approved them?
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I noticed that too Farrall.
Outside of work, I used to be a volunteer ice steward at the local rink. No bouncy surfaces, in fact the ice is as hard as concrete so we had our fair share of broken bones, typically wrist where the hand goes out to break a fall.
We certainly had trained first aiders, back boards and a designated first aid room. For immobile IP, we had cones and I could enlist the help of the skating regulars to form a barrier around the IP until we could close off part of the ice pad.
We also had rules for the patrons to follow but we certainly never made them sign a disclaimer.
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I am often remind of the legal quip that there is no such thing as consensual manslaughter. Whilst no one has died, the principle here is that one person or organisation can use common law agreements, whether informed or not, to annul statutory instruments.
It shall be interesting to see how this case unfolds.
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The mind boggles .....
I guess the Council didn't go in because they didn't know it was operating because the organisation didn't have a licence. That makes sense. I was wondering how they didn't know it was operating. Why are they building to ASTM Standards anyway, don't we have standards in Europe?
Good job they've been closed down and I should have said they'd be lucky to get a licence after this. It is, as you say, jaw dropping.
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