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will1977  
#1 Posted : 30 July 2014 14:12:17(UTC)
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will1977

Hi,
I have been speaking with our continuous improvements manager who has suggested that if the opportunity arises I should consider studying for Six Sigma green or black belt.
I've looked into this before but often considered it to be more of a production/ quality oriented subject?
Has anyone else considered, or gone down the six sigma route?

Many Thanks
SW  
#2 Posted : 01 August 2014 14:56:38(UTC)
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SW

Hi - Yes I thought it was predominantly production / quality with elements that will assist H&S.
If I was offered the chance I would jump at it. I would like to do this but costs are stopping me / my boss.
If the course is "Buy one get one free" put my name down!
Regards
SW
dennish  
#3 Posted : 02 August 2014 09:59:43(UTC)
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dennish

Hi Will1977,

I undertook the green belt course last year, Whilst it is more production, quality you can use the methodology in many other areas including H&S using the DMAIC approach.

PM if you want some details.

Dennis
paulm69  
#4 Posted : 04 August 2014 11:17:45(UTC)
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paulm69

Hi Will 1977,

You might want to check out Lean Safety by Robert B Hafey

http://www.leansafetybook.com/

Swygart25604  
#5 Posted : 05 August 2014 12:47:11(UTC)
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Swygart25604

The basic DMAIC / PDCA principles will always work, no matter where you apply them. To me, there's a difference between lean and the things in the lean toolbox, and six sigma.

With respect to proper six sigma methodology, as an automotive quality assurance professional of 20+ years extreme experience in a Tier 1 situation with the likes of Toyota all over the world, I have to say that the number of quality problems I solved with six-sigma I could count on the fingers of no hands. 98% of problems I encountered were not solved using statistical tools and design of experiments etc. They were basic failings of management systems, things breaking down, incapable equipment or processes and human errors. Toyota don't believe in six sigma because they regard it as an elitist tool, when problem-solving should be open to everyone via the normal methodologies....."go and see"!

Sorry. Rant over.......but I guess it will look good to some people if it's on your c.v..
stephenjs  
#6 Posted : 01 September 2014 13:30:23(UTC)
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stephenjs

I did six sigma and 5S some years ago and use the DMAIC methodology all the time, a definite yes from me
Stephen
kaidenraul  
#7 Posted : 12 March 2015 07:20:45(UTC)
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kaidenraul

I am not exactly suggesting you this way because it mostly depends upon your interest. But many of them have gained good experience with these courses. Six Sigma is one of the course which helps organizations or individuals to sharpen their management skills, offering them to enhance their performance to improve the productivity, quality.






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hilary  
#8 Posted : 12 March 2015 08:07:24(UTC)
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hilary

I have just done yellow belt training, you will find there is an enormous amount of cross over between the tools we historically use in H&S like root cause analysis and trend analysis and the tools in Six Sigma. If he is offering to pay then I would bite his hand off - what a fantastic transferable skill.
walker  
#9 Posted : 12 March 2015 09:26:24(UTC)
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walker

quote=Swygart25604]The basic DMAIC / PDCA principles will always work, no matter where you apply them. To me, there's a difference between lean and the things in the lean toolbox, and six sigma.

With respect to proper six sigma methodology, as an automotive quality assurance professional of 20+ years extreme experience in a Tier 1 situation with the likes of Toyota all over the world, I have to say that the number of quality problems I solved with six-sigma I could count on the fingers of no hands. 98% of problems I encountered were not solved using statistical tools and design of experiments etc. They were basic failings of management systems, things breaking down, incapable equipment or processes and human errors. Toyota don't believe in six sigma because they regard it as an elitist tool, when problem-solving should be open to everyone via the normal methodologies....."go and see"!


That's good to hear ....... I thought I was the only one who thought this fad was a bit emperors clothes. I did all of this with a major (you would all know its name)Japanese company years ago. The fact that the company no longer exists says it all.



Sorry. Rant over.......but I guess it will look good to some people if it's on your c.v..

PIKEMAN  
#10 Posted : 13 March 2015 14:12:31(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

In purely career terms, go for it. It seems that a lot of manuf companies, especially automotive, are complete suckers for this sort of thing. Speaking as an experienced and qualified manager, I looked at this DMAIC concept and thought "WOW THIS LOOKS NOTHING LIKE GOOD OLD FASHIONED PROBLEM SOLVING!" Actually I am kidding - that's exactly what it looks like, dressed up in pompous terminology. IMHO.
georgegelston  
#11 Posted : 13 March 2015 14:56:53(UTC)
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georgegelston

See I completed the Lean Six Sigma Green Belt course just over a year ago. As previously mentioned the DMAIC approach lends itself to many subject areas of Health & Safety.

However, for me it gave me other tools that I continue to use everyday. For example one of the features of Lean Six Sigma is data interpretation and learning how to display this effectively. I have used this to produce Senior Management Team Reports (Instead of using 20 pages of words etc.) and if has had a profound effect. They now get more actively involved in both the praise (Good Practice) and the support towards areas of improvement.

It also lends itself to policy writing. Treat it as a manufacturing process put every single step on sticky notes and place them in order on a wall. Then look at how much waste there is. Get rid of the unnecessary steps which helps compliance rates. Makes it easier for the staff on site to undertake their duties effectively but most importantly safely.

There are so many more tools I learnt that once coupled
Overall I thoroughly enjoyed the course and would recommend it to anyone.
walker  
#12 Posted : 17 March 2015 09:59:29(UTC)
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walker

Pikeman wrote:
In purely career terms, go for it. .


I agree, looks good on your CV
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