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nelly13  
#1 Posted : 20 March 2015 16:26:49(UTC)
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nelly13

Hi

Probably been asked many times!!!

The principle designer CDM15 (single or team) has to be a legal entity, can the principle contractor take on the principle designer role as well?

Not to go too much into detail but a project we're tendering for, the client has requested us to be principle contractor but client also wants us to run the project as much as getting in other sub-contractors for other activities eg duct work, asbestos strip out ect. I'm not to happy with this as we are not by any means skilled or trained to manage the activites mentioned. Therefore could we use project managers from sub-contractors to feed us information on their specific trades, even through you can't class them as being part of the legal entity of the principle designer. Hope I've explained myself!!!!!
achrn  
#2 Posted : 20 March 2015 16:35:39(UTC)
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achrn

Yes the principal contractor and principal designer can be the same organisation, if it has the appropriate capabilities.

I don't quite follow your elaboration, however. You seem to be saying you're concerned about appointing subcontractors to do work your own workforce aren't competent to do themselves. That's the way it normally works, surely? Main contractors have always been managing a construction sites that includes operations carried out by subcontractors, where the main contractor does not have the capability to do the work (such as asbestos works). That's all about PC role, not PD role.
RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 23 March 2015 20:45:40(UTC)
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RayRapp

The PC should be suitably proficient in the PC role, engaging and managing sub-contractors is an integral aspect of that role. Likewise the PD should be suitably competent to fulfil that role - that's what CDM 2015 explicitly requires. In other words, those who are not suitably trained, experienced and knowledgeable need not apply.
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