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Hamm  
#1 Posted : 20 March 2015 17:46:15(UTC)
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Hamm

I am after some advice from others who work in Educational environments,preferably primary schools.

Our 4 - 6 year olds are encouraged to use the toilet independently,however we have had a few instances where they are unable to open the main toilet door [not cubicle] as it is too heavy and have managed to trap their fingers on occasions.It has been suggested in other similar settings that the main toilet door can be removed to eliminate these problems and staff are also able to monitor children better,i wondered if others do this?Any help appreciated.
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 22 March 2015 12:07:08(UTC)
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bob youel

This should be easily solved - i advise that U chat with your local LA's H&S in-house [not the EHO's] bods and get them to the school

There is no problem propping open the main [which is probably a fire door] entrance door to the loo's whilst the toilets are being used during the day and closed again after the children have gone home provided such actions are managed properly NB: I looked after ~120 schools of all types until very recently
mssy  
#3 Posted : 22 March 2015 22:22:46(UTC)
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mssy

If the room is just a toilet and has no addition use such as storage etc, it is very unlikely the door will need to be a fire door, even if one is fitted.Toilets are seen as low risk fire wise and are allowed in protected escape routes. (ie, do not generally need to be separated by fire resisting materials)

Therefore would it be possible to fit a lighter door, or short one to allow the little 'uns to be monitored safely by taller adults?
pl53  
#4 Posted : 23 March 2015 07:25:18(UTC)
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pl53

It's not just kids that need looking after. At one of my previous companies we found someone unconscious in a locked toilet. When we finally got him out and did the investigation it turns out that the plastic toilet seat was cracked. When he sat on the seat the cracked seat must have shifted and nipped him on the backside causing him to jump up in alarm. As he did this he slipped on a wet patch on the floor and fell forward headbutting the toilet door and knocking himself out. Root causes - poor maintenance and poor housekeeping.
mssy  
#5 Posted : 23 March 2015 08:03:39(UTC)
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mssy

PL53 wrote:
It's not just kids that need looking after. At one of my previous companies we found someone unconscious in a locked toilet. When we finally got him out and did the investigation it turns out that the plastic toilet seat was cracked. When he sat on the seat the cracked seat must have shifted and nipped him on the backside causing him to jump up in alarm. As he did this he slipped on a wet patch on the floor and fell forward headbutting the toilet door and knocking himself out. Root causes - poor maintenance and poor housekeeping.


Surely all of this was entirely predictable ;)
I bet he does airline pilot style pre-take off safety checks before he sits down on a loo now - poor man!


IanDakin  
#6 Posted : 23 March 2015 09:18:14(UTC)
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IanDakin

Is PL53's post an urban myth?

Do we all need to update our risk assessments?
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