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fiesta  
#1 Posted : 09 April 2015 12:31:35(UTC)
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fiesta


Has anyone ever allowed this ?

I'm under pressure to allow the kids of a client on to one of our sites, basically for a look around.

My instant reaction was "No, why would we allow it"?

However pressure is pressure.

Any thoughts ?
hopeful  
#2 Posted : 09 April 2015 12:35:54(UTC)
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hopeful

I don't manage sites but surely if the timing is planned this could be a positive thing if well managed as well. Why can't the children be treated like any adult visiting a site - accompanied, well managed tours could promote safety and reduce the likelihood of children playing with equipment or on sites during the holidays etc
RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 09 April 2015 12:45:52(UTC)
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RayRapp

I tend to agree with Hopeful's comments, properly managed it should not be a problem - a pain perhaps. However, there are many construction sites up and down the country which mandate that only those with a CSCS card are allowed to go on site. So, children are not going to posses this 'qualification' and would the client still apply pressure to bend the rules to suit their purpose? In which case I would steadfastly refuse - I don't tolerate double-standards.
peter gotch  
#4 Posted : 09 April 2015 13:38:34(UTC)
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peter gotch

Fiesta,

It's not uncommon for large projects to positively encourage visits by local school pupils. As previous comments, needs to be properly managed.
gt  
#5 Posted : 09 April 2015 13:44:11(UTC)
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gt

My first reaction would be "why not?" Health and Safety isn't about stopping things from happening. It is about facilitating things to be done safely.

I am sure that, with a little bit of effort, a site visit can be arranged and in complete safety. Politicians do it so why not the young generation? The kids would get an awareness of the risks and the control measures on a building site and if put across in the right way may prove beneficial in the future.

Graham
ashleywillson  
#6 Posted : 09 April 2015 13:47:22(UTC)
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ashleywillson

I can't see why its an issue as long as they are accompanied and it is properly planned?

firesafety101  
#7 Posted : 09 April 2015 14:50:06(UTC)
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firesafety101

When I was travelling and inspecting shopfitting sites a few years ago I would occasionally take my son along with me during school holidays.

I made sure the site management were OK with it and issued him a hard hat safety boots and high viz.

On arrival we were both induction trained as visitors and off we went to do the safety inspection.

My son always received a good welcome, banter with the operatives, offers of drinks and snacks so he enjoyed every minute.

I also booked decent accommodation for the overnight stay, decent budget hotel with swimming pool and he really enjoyed the whole experience.

No problem as far as I'm concerned.

Alfasev  
#8 Posted : 09 April 2015 14:52:43(UTC)
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Alfasev

Having site visit like this is quite normal and should be encouraged. I have always done a specific risk assessment and implemented appropriate controls like having a defined clean and clear route, induction etc. PPE is always an issue particularly boots.
walker  
#9 Posted : 09 April 2015 15:53:07(UTC)
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walker

Seems reasonable to me.
don't loose sight of the fact that without clients there is no job.
RayRapp  
#10 Posted : 09 April 2015 16:44:33(UTC)
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RayRapp

And don't they know it.
wood1e  
#11 Posted : 09 April 2015 16:57:37(UTC)
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wood1e

We do this regularly, and we are one of those that insist you have a CSCS card appropriate for your job role etc etc. Alfasev's approach is the same as ours, set out a clear route, viewing points etc. Induction briefing, escorted at all times as a group with regard to boots we usually request walking boots, stout shoes etc as we have prepared a walking route and risk assessed, implemented controls.
What future does the construction industry have if we never allow kids to see the amazing things that go on behind the hoarding?
Ultimately we should be enabling things as safety professionals, in a controlled manner, to educate and promote what construction has to offer.
fiesta  
#12 Posted : 10 April 2015 13:57:50(UTC)
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fiesta

By way of an update..

The visit was to be today.
We carried out a full RA, temporarily suspended work in key areas, even had the Jamie dodgers bought in specially.

They cancelled.
Robert Pearson  
#13 Posted : 10 April 2015 14:13:54(UTC)
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Robert Pearson

There's the answer then fiesta, Jamie dodgers... should have gone for the Jammy ones. The may have thought that building workers had slight cannibalistic tendencies?
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