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Hi guys
Im looking for some guidance regarding scaffolding, we have a scaffold erected around all 4 sides of a steel frame building - I have advised the site manager that we need to fit an inside toe board to the walkway to prevent tools or materials being kicked from the scaffold platform to anyone working inside the building. - am i right on this?
the issue is that the site manager reckons I am wrong on this and as he will have no-one working in the building while people work outside there would be no need to fit inside toe boards.
I cant find any guidance on this however I do know that I have been subject to FFI from HSE for this situation previously .
any help is appreciated
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Hi All,
I would also be interested in scaffolding experts opinion on this.
Had a similar situation on site this year. No FFI though thankfully.
Andy
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Robert you have done your risk assessment, obviously, and you must act to reduce/remove the hazards and risks you have.
IMO you are correct in asking for the inside toeboards.
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This troubles me somewhat, why are you "advising" when you cannot be sure of the legitimacy of the advice you are giving?.
In my day one always checked before offering what might be duff advice.
Jon
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If there are people accessing underneath or in the nearby immediate area underneath the scaffold, fit them. If not, then no.
There has to be a reason for the fitment. What is the hazard, what is the risk? What can fall off (tooling, materials)?? Who is working underneath??
Cheers
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Guys - thank you for your advice
Reilly21943 - wether or not there are peolpe working underneath would we not need to fit them, would the HSE not look at the 'potential' was there? what I mean is simply because no one is planned to be underneath doesnt mean they wont go under there?
John M - I am basing my advice on previous experience of getting it wrong in the eyes of the HSE, Im not sure how you mean that is not legitimate advice - lessons learned and all that. And as for checking thats why I am asking on here as it is one of these things that crop up from time to time that would not appear to be stated in black 7 white
Fiesta - glad to hear Im not the only one, makes me think the nice HSE inspector wasnt just out to get me lol
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Guys - thank you for your advice
Reilly21943 - whether or not there are people working underneath would we not need to fit them, would the HSE not look at the 'potential' was there? What I mean is simply because no one is planned to be underneath doesn't mean they wont go under there?
John M - I am basing my advice on previous experience of getting it wrong in the eyes of the HSE, I'm not sure how you mean that is not legitimate advice - lessons learned and all that. And as for checking that's why I am asking on here as it is one of these things that crop up from time to time that would not appear to be stated in black 7 white
Fiesta - glad to hear I'm not the only one, makes me think the nice HSE inspector wasn't just out to get me lol
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As already noted use the risk assessment process to qualify your position and thereafter its up to management to manage noting that without adequate management in place noting is worth having as time and again I have seen things fall off scaffold especially with poor quality toe boards and management in place so toe boards in themselves are not a cure all and all with good RA's in place
And as for the FFI situation; well management know that it's cheaper on many occasions to take a hit from the HSE [if they ever turn up] than it is to do a job properly
All I say is to ensure that your personal back is covered -best of luck
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Morning Robert,
I would be worried about tools/items falling, hitting the steel frame and coming back out into the 'live area'. I would also check the gap between the middle rail and the deck as the toe board is often used to keep the gap to less than the 470mm required.
Hope this helps.
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