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Hi, looking through various HSE roof work publications relating to replacing /repairing 5-20 tiles on a domestic pitched roof, guidance seems to indicate (unless read wrong) use of a ladder (to roof height and another when on the roof) is OK / acceptable. Some photos (web based again) indicate otherwise - clear examples of bad practice. Any thoughts / clarification. Thanks.
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JHF wrote:Hi, looking through various HSE roof work publications relating to replacing /repairing 5-20 tiles on a domestic pitched roof, guidance seems to indicate (unless read wrong) use of a ladder (to roof height and another when on the roof) is OK / acceptable. Some photos (web based again) indicate otherwise - clear examples of bad practice. Any thoughts / clarification. Thanks. I use three points of contact a must at all times, with tied ladders also a must for short duration pitched roof work. We employ the TETRA system if it is of any help?
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Thoughts/opinions yes.
What you describe is the HSE minimum recomendation for short duration pitched roof works. As always be careful when using the minimum recomendation as there are other factors at work such as the height of the roof/consequences of fall etc.
All work at height needs a suitable RA regardless of HSE guidance and, in the event of an accident saying "I followed the HSE minimum recomendation" will not be the greatest defence in the world.
If this is a bungalow and the damaged tiles are at low level then I may be inclined to agree this could be acceptable. Any higher then I would not be happy that the method (on its own) was suitable as essentially no fall protection/prevention is being provided.
Just an opinion.
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Thanks for the above. The answer (I`m sure) should be (as ever) a safe system of work, working from ladders can`t (surely) be seen as a realistic option. The property is a house (not a bungalow); the best option must be a scaffold, or propriety system (with edge / fall protection etc.), its just when reading various guidance there isn't anything clear, its left to someone's opinion - therefore the issue is vague!
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JHF wrote:Thanks for the above. The answer (I`m sure) should be (as ever) a safe system of work, working from ladders can`t (surely) be seen as a realistic option. The property is a house (not a bungalow); the best option must be a scaffold, or propriety system (with edge / fall protection etc.), its just when reading various guidance there isn't anything clear, its left to someone's opinion - therefore the issue is vague! The HSE say that working from ladders without edge protection can be put into practice, but if your work allows you to put a scaffold up you would be saft not too! One of my employers have heating engineers who need to check flues on pitched roofs! Waiting for a scaffold to be put up at £400 a pop for 2 minutes work at height just isn't feasible. They could be doing this in 10 properties a day!
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These are the problems. If they fall - major / issue problem, should have used a scaffold (obvious), 30 min job = two ladders. Grey areas!
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OP, ask yourself how long is the task going to take? If it's 30 minutes or less, use the ladder access (preferably with a stand off so the ladder protrudes above the roof) and a cat ladder hooked over the apex close by.
Short duration work and reasonably practicable.
If longer, get your scaffold up. ;-)
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