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Hi all,
Any of you done the IOSH Managing Safely course at all? Whilst I was doing mine our tutor had these kind of board games (If you can call it that) where you had to find all the risks and mark them with numbers (Consequences) .. Would you know where I could get them from or are they just for IOSH courses??
I'm trying to have a section in our company health and safety training day(for new staff) which is a little active and fun.....I don't want to give them death by power point (Only 50 slides, but an hour of my voice could kill them). I wonder if any of you fine people have any ideas on how to make it a little more fun and active.
Thanks
Kells
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Thought we had a Friday thread for a minute there (ah! Friday threads.......where did they go?).
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Hi Kells,
These are available from IOSH training department and can be purchased separately if you want them. However, IOSH have just re-vamped this part of the course and have issued new (pieces) for the board games, and are asking the training providers to discard the old pieces. IOSH are doing this because they are using a slightly different matrix for the board games in the new course.
You may be able to get the old pieces from a training provider if you ask them nicely, before they get rid of them.
Note: You don't need to use the standard IOSH samples (factory, office and construction site) you can make up your own picture for your industry and print them on A3. This is what I use for our organisation and it works well at the time.
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Hi Kells
We have recently received our updated IOSH MS training materials and I have the old pieces with risk/ consequence etc and also the pizza quiz
I would be happy to send you these
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Kells
I believe if you Google Hazard Spotting exercise you could find some typical graphical funny things in websites, i have few of them , pm me if you want
SHV
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I am in middle of this IOSH course, to see for myself what it actually offers. I am Diploma, CMIOSH, 20 + years senior adviser & trainer. I have had to sit stum to see what is involved. Never had a spare 4 days before now.
For the last two days I have endured instruction on the most complicated, distorted and frankly unusable risk assessment 'methodology', including the contrived and cumbersome game of which you speak.
It has confirmed my worst fears, and explains why I am coming across such poor systems and methodologies in client organisations which are relying on the IOSH MS course as the primer for managers.
To think that I have been around all these years, and only just discovered what this course actually contains.
The game is slow, painful, and frustratingly fussy, for no real benefit. It uses matrices, 5 x 5 for the game, a methodology completely out of synch with HSE guidance and examples. The coverage of controls in contrast is too skimpy, although this is the area managers would benefit the most from.
There are plenty of better exercises and activities, make your own, as others suggest, maybe use photographs (better than cartoon toytown pretend situations), to prompt debate, and focus more on the variety of solutions / control measures and how they work or don't, and management techniques to improve control.
I am so disappointed with this content - some other delegates were showing frustration or even bafflement with the game in particular.
I will not be recommending it to clients based on the first 3 days (most of content) nor will i be rushing to buy this game.
Yes, you need activities, but relevant and compatible with your own real world situations.
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Just a note Aud, I am assuming that you are taking the 3.1 version? IOSH Managing Safely has recently been slightly revamped (4.0) and in particular the new risk assessment process which now it is very much in sync with the HSE. I am sure you will also agree as with all courses a lot has to do with the knowledge and experience of the trainer and how this is put across. With your experience and knowledge I am not surprised you were frustrated sitting an IOSH MS, but remember some of the other delegates will not have this experience! Take a look at the new version, not perfect, but a lot better!
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Surely whatever game you choose to use, its the trainers input that will make it interesting
or boring.
I have used and found the delegates enjoyed it A bad workman always blames his tools as the saying goes
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Come onto my MS training course (for free) and I will guarantee you will like it - been training it since forever and I put in lots of antidote stuff into the mix, lots of experience in lots of industries. The IOSH RA format has to be used for the project and works well to understand how to assess uncomplicated risks and works well for most people. A good trainer will ask you to bring along samples of your risk assessments so they can be discussed and compared to what is being trained, not better just different.
Yes I agree with you the risk controls are important and could be expanded upon and some of the environmental and the measuring performance stuff can be a drag, I have my own issues with some of the content of the course but the RA approach is not one of them.
Whoever said that the HSE approach and RA samples are the right way to do things anyway, or that the 5x5 matrix isn't any good!
You may have missed the point with the cartoon toytown pretend situation, possibly because of your high level and greater understanding of H&S which is understandable. The board games are not to identify the hazards, these are blatent; the learning is to get the groups to be able to estimate and evaluate the risks and should inspire thoughts and conversations, and also to then work out what are the best control measures to use for each individual situation.
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Toe wrote:aud
Come onto my MS training course (for free) and I will guarantee you will like it - been training it since forever and I put in lots of antidote stuff into the mix, lots of experience in lots of industries. The IOSH RA format has to be used for the project and works well to understand how to assess uncomplicated risks and works well for most people. A good trainer will ask you to bring along samples of your risk assessments so they can be discussed and compared to what is being trained, not better just different.
Yes I agree with you the risk controls are important and could be expanded upon and some of the environmental and the measuring performance stuff can be a drag, I have my own issues with some of the content of the course but the RA approach is not one of them.
Whoever said that the HSE approach and RA samples are the right way to do things anyway, or that the 5x5 matrix isn't any good!
You may have missed the point with the cartoon toytown pretend situation, possibly because of your high level and greater understanding of H&S which is understandable. The board games are not to identify the hazards, these are blatent; the learning is to get the groups to be able to estimate and evaluate the risks and should inspire thoughts and conversations, and also to then work out what are the best control measures to use for each individual situation.
I agree with this - all down to delivery - I think I can offer this too - as Toe is nowhere near us. We're in the southwest and same offer applies :)
That said there is room for improvement....
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aud wrote:...........The game is slow, painful, and frustratingly fussy, for no real benefit. It uses matrices............... I am so disappointed with this content - some other delegates were showing frustration or even bafflement with the game in particular.
Hear. hear Aud. A load of patronising condescending nonsense, best suited to 6 year-olds, with IOSH insisting on the content being delivered with little change allowed.
I'm sure we woudn't need an antidote to any of your anecdotes.
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Some people just have a deer with no eyes.
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I have not done IOSH MS with new version, cartoon..but at the end of the day , using any other techniques, real work pictures....you will end up with subjective issue.. considering that Health and Safety is not sexy subject and not so many people are enjoying that...
SHV
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