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DaisyMaisy  
#1 Posted : 26 May 2015 15:51:28(UTC)
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DaisyMaisy

Hi there - can you help me on this one? company has a workshop to carry out works such as cutting, welding, folding sheet metal. The equipment is old and no manuals available for guidance. There doesnt appear to be any records of maintenance! if equipment is old but still in working order what is the situation of there isnt a company willing to take on maintenance - is it simply to replace with new?
Ian Bell  
#2 Posted : 26 May 2015 16:09:06(UTC)
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Ian Bell

The situation is that adequate maintenance has to be provided for safety - read L22 the ACOP on PUWER. How you achieve that or not, is a practical problem which you will have to resolve. If you decide that replacement is the only option, well fair enough.
paul.skyrme  
#3 Posted : 26 May 2015 20:19:33(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

If the equipment is that old then it is probably "simple". If you have that sort of equipment, then you almost certainly have someone in house competent to maintain it. Just because it needs maintenance does not = an outside contractor. Replacing good working reliable machinery on the basis that it can't be maintained because there are no manuals is bunkum. You might need some help in setting up a maintenance programme, possibly with the maintenance, but there are companies that do this, I KNOW for a fact. Also, read the wording in Ian's post above, that is from the ACoP it may even be work perfect in the relevant wording, and it is pertinent. I can't advertise companies to maintain old machinery on here. Depending on where you are, I may well be able to suggest one, if you want more info please PM.
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 27 May 2015 16:13:18(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

I wouldn't be throwing out very sturdy and reliable fly-presses, folding machines etc. Welding equipment is another matter though. Is it a bit like the broom I've had for 40 years (only 4 new shafts and 6 new heads)? ;0 Hoses, regulators and torches should be replaced and serviced regularly, and there are dozens of companies out there who will sell you that! BCGA and others provide guidance.
DaisyMaisy  
#5 Posted : 28 May 2015 16:36:20(UTC)
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DaisyMaisy

Thank you to all who responded, many thanks and very helpful!!
JohnW  
#6 Posted : 28 May 2015 16:57:16(UTC)
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JohnW

Daisy, if you do read the PUWER ACoP: - you might decide that your cutting machines are not adequately guarded; if someone can put there fingers in the way of moving saw/blade then probably need some sort of guard or provide 'pushsticks' to prevent injury - you might also note in the ACoP that for this kind of equipment anyone using it should have a record of training; training can be done internally if your trainer is intelligent and competent; written records are nice to have if you ever end up in court the PUWER ACoP can be downloaded free as a pdf, here: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/l22.htm a short guide also here: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg229.htm
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