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Lindsey01  
#1 Posted : 27 May 2015 15:21:47(UTC)
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Lindsey01

An architect is having a problem with a domestic clients who wants to secure building regulations approval before considering appointing the architect as Principal Designer.

The regulation states to make appointments must be made as soon as is practicable

Advice please
kenty  
#2 Posted : 27 May 2015 15:35:21(UTC)
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kenty

You are correct that the regs require appointment as soon as possible, however reg 7 adds that if the domestic client doesn't make any appointments, the designer (or architect in this case) in control of pre-construction phase will be the PD .
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 27 May 2015 15:46:46(UTC)
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firesafety101

Perhaps he wants to wait and see if the Architects drawings pass planning before making the appointment. Surely that is acceptable, otherwise he may not know if he is competent?
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 27 May 2015 15:54:21(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The domestic client is under NO OBLIGATION to make appointments for the purposes of CDM.
Alfasev  
#5 Posted : 27 May 2015 16:45:58(UTC)
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Alfasev

The architect will be the Principal Designer by default under regulation 7 (2) (a). A formal appointment or more correctly a written agreement is required if the architect wants to take on a lot of the Client’s duties under regulation 4(1) to (7) and 6. Duties in my opinion they should avoid taking on unless they are satisfied they have the authority to fulfil.

Architects on domestic projects need to be able to demonstrate when their appointment has concluded. They do not want to be deemed the Principal Designer by default when a serious incident occurs months down the line
Lindsey01  
#6 Posted : 28 May 2015 10:28:19(UTC)
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Lindsey01

Thank you for your response.
Would cdm 2015 apply if the designs started before April 6th ??
Alfasev  
#7 Posted : 28 May 2015 11:01:48(UTC)
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Alfasev

This is an interesting question.

Going forward CDM 2015 applies regardless as to when the design was done. But the designer is unlikely to be held responsible for decisions made under CDM 2007 that breach CDM 2015. However in reality designer's duties have not changed dramatically, they have just been clarified and the majority of design risks are subject to the building regulations.

In this case it appears the transitional arrangements do not apply as construction has not started on site and no CDM-C was appointed prior to 6th April 2015.
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