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Dave Bowden  
#1 Posted : 08 June 2015 11:57:50(UTC)
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Dave Bowden

Good morning, I am the Health and Safety officer for a factory that produces bespoke trucks, it is a large site consisting of four buildings (3 production and 1 for stores) I would just be interested to know people’s views on the displaying of no smoking signs on site. I.e. positioning and numbers. I am having heating discussions with a member of the production management team.
boblewis  
#2 Posted : 08 June 2015 12:19:26(UTC)
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boblewis

The law does state that each building must have signs at each access point - Having said that I note that many Non Smoking sites such as Hospitals are also signing the Entrance Points to the site.
Urlrik  
#3 Posted : 08 June 2015 12:26:56(UTC)
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Urlrik

The Smoke-free (Signs) Regulations 2012 state At least one legible no-smoking sign must be displayed in smoke-free premises in accordance with the duty at section 6(1) of the Act. In the 2007 legislation it was more prescriptive that there had to be one at each entrance and that it had to be a certain size etc, but that was replaced in the 2012 regs. I guess the question back would be whether all the buildings are on the same site and what your policy is regarding where smoking is allowed etc? Personally I would have thought on a large complex site that there should be more than one sign per building, but I believe that's all you need to do to square off your legal obligations.
grim72  
#4 Posted : 08 June 2015 13:11:37(UTC)
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grim72

The regs have changed in recent times - as per urlrik - there is no longer a need for a sign at each entrance - in theory so long as one sign is visible you are effectively covered. Having said that there is no harm in displaying the message in several locations across sites to keep the message visible. It's also worth considering what your policy is with regards to e-cigarettes. many companies prefer a total ban on all types of cigarette, whilst some are happy for e-cigarettes to be used in designated areas. It's worth ensuring you get a sign that covers both scenarios - I know the likes of Greenham etc do these versions now?
grim72  
#5 Posted : 09 June 2015 08:22:07(UTC)
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grim72

Interestingly I read this morning that Wales are going to be banning e-cigarettes in the workplace too - see link for more info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33025872 I know e-cigarettes have been a much discussed topic on the forum so no doubt this will light the fuse again :-)
Dave Bowden  
#6 Posted : 11 June 2015 13:40:51(UTC)
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Dave Bowden

Thanks for your comments... I won :-)
stonecold  
#7 Posted : 11 June 2015 13:44:00(UTC)
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stonecold

I dont even know why we have to display signs anymore...everyone knows smoking has been banned in public buildings and workplaces etc for a long time. Seems like a waste of time really. Your not allowed illegal drugs at work but we dont post signs reminding people of that do we ;)
firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 11 June 2015 20:22:16(UTC)
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firesafety101

Stonecold exactly what I was thinking while reading through. Friday tomorrow we could have a silly sign competition. One could be no guns to be fired in the Manager's office ?
stonecold  
#9 Posted : 12 June 2015 06:35:33(UTC)
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stonecold

FireSafety101 wrote:
Stonecold exactly what I was thinking while reading through. Friday tomorrow we could have a silly sign competition. One could be no guns to be fired in the Manager's office ?
Fuuny you should mention guns. I work for an american company and one of our global standard EHS rules is that no firearms are allowed in the workplace! We also have a site up north near Leeds, its a bit out in the sticks, we actually did have employees on the nightshift bringing in shotguns to shoot rabbits during their lunch break once. I kid you not. Hmmm maybe we need a sign for that too :)
firesafety101  
#10 Posted : 12 June 2015 13:34:23(UTC)
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firesafety101

Well I never lol
chris42  
#11 Posted : 12 June 2015 14:07:10(UTC)
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chris42

quote=stonecold]
FireSafety101 wrote:
Stonecold exactly what I was thinking while reading through. Friday tomorrow we could have a silly sign competition. One could be no guns to be fired in the Manager's office ?
Fuuny you should mention guns. I work for an american company and one of our global standard EHS rules is that no firearms are allowed in the workplace! We also have a site up north near Leeds, its a bit out in the sticks, we actually did have employees on the nightshift bringing in shotguns to shoot rabbits during their lunch break once. I kid you not. Hmmm maybe we need a sign for that too :)
A "no Bunny's" sign ?
Graham Bullough  
#12 Posted : 12 June 2015 14:25:43(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

In response to FS101's suggestion at #8 about having a silly sign competition today I got the strong impression that Friday fun threads became increasingly rare and then disappeared from this Discussion Forum during 2014. The good news, at least for IOSH members, is that humour is alive and well on the Social Forum. It's one of the three Member Forums which were developed last August out of the Member Forum which was limited to topics concerning IOSH's organisation and services. Furthermore, postings of humorous threads or responses on the Members' Social Forum are not limited to Fridays! IOSH members who wish to access the Member Forums need to log on first. It is evident that numerous IOSH members look at the (public) Discussion Forum on a regular basis but rarely or never post on it - and therefore do not log on. By contrast relatively few IOSH members seem to access the Member Forums, let alone post on them. Therefore, it could be that a significant number of IOSH members still don't know about the development of the Member Forums. I didn't know about the change myself until some months later because I lapsed from being a regular poster over 2 years ago and thereafter rarely logged on.
Graham Bullough  
#13 Posted : 12 June 2015 14:59:11(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

In the wake of the recent publicity about comments made by Sir Tim Hunt about women scientists one contender for an amusing sign in workplaces comprising laboratories is "Caution - mixed gender lab! No falling in love or crying permitted". For information about the comments and the subsequent "distractinglysexy" themed reaction, see http://www.dailymail.co....istractinglysexy-be.html My apologies, if necessary, for having indulged in some humour on this forum and also mentioning the "Daily Mail". In my defence about doing the latter, I came across the quoted online item which included the mixed gender lab sign while looking through internet newsfeeds earlier today, and admit to being amused by some of its contents. Also, as this forum is about occupational safety & health, it's appropriate to add that the item does include various photos of personal protective clothing and equipment in use! :-)
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