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Richard#  
#1 Posted : 23 June 2015 12:48:51(UTC)
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Richard#

Please can you tell me the frequency of re-inspection for building containing asbestos - I believe it is 2 yearly - in my old company it was annually - but I need to know what is the legal frequency is.
achrn  
#2 Posted : 23 June 2015 12:53:06(UTC)
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achrn

Periodically.

ACOP clause 144:
"Any identified or suspected ACM must be inspected and its condition assessed periodically, to check that it has not deteriorated or been damaged. The frequency of inspection will depend on the location of the ACMs and other factors which could affect their condition, eg the activities in the building, nonoccupancy etc. There will also be events or changes, eg maintenance work, new tenants or employees, that should also trigger a review of the plan."

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l143.pdf
Dean Elliot  
#3 Posted : 23 June 2015 15:42:22(UTC)
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Dean Elliot

I think there is some misunderstanding of your phrase "inspection".

Do you mean inspection by a competent asbestos surveyor or monitoring of asbestos that has already been identified?

kenty  
#4 Posted : 23 June 2015 16:45:48(UTC)
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kenty

Generally the surveying company will give a recommendation on the frequency of reinspection...
RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 24 June 2015 08:21:52(UTC)
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RayRapp

The principle of reviewing asbestos reports or inspections should be risk based. The higher the risk the more frequent those reviews will need to be taking into account factors which could have disturbed the ACMs. I know of no set timescale, but a realistic frequency will be partly dependant on the amount of properties with ACMs plus the resources available. I think it would not be unreasonable for a frequency of 1-5 years.
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 24 June 2015 11:03:20(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Regulation 4(9)(a) of CAR2012 is very specific.
If your Reg4 management plan doesn't provide you with that information then it isn't fully compliant.
bob youel  
#7 Posted : 25 June 2015 07:39:15(UTC)
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bob youel

RR has hit the nail on the head and please note that I have never seen a surveyors report that included within it a suitable and sufficient asbestos management risk assessment as such reports are only talking about asbestos in certain ways so people need to think outside of the box and surveyors may not be competent to risk assess

An e.g. taken from an asbestos report; "Asbestos in tunnel is in a good condition therefore next check will be in 12 months time as asbestos release is low " This statement made the controller of the undertaking think that all was fine

However when I pointed out to her that the tunnel was a passageway and kids could hit the asbestos roof with their balls [a thing that she admitted did happen] as they went through this tunnel the overall risk changed completely as the asbestos could easily have been broken!

best of luck
Dean Elliot  
#8 Posted : 25 June 2015 15:40:17(UTC)
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Dean Elliot

The new guidance from HSE is now much better than it used to be. HSG227 in particular now specifies the need for a prioroty risk assessment that takes into account the use of the building in addition to a material assessment carried out by the assessor.

This has always been the requirement but the earlier guidance was quite heavy going and it could be easily missed. As a former Inspector, I lost count of the number of companies who just did not get what asbestos management plans were all about. There were very few companies who just produced a woolly procedure document outlining how to do an AMP, without actually doing one!
Dean Elliot  
#9 Posted : 25 June 2015 15:41:33(UTC)
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Dean Elliot

#Priority risk assessment


next time I'll use a spell checker...
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