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clegg1966  
#1 Posted : 16 July 2015 15:33:38(UTC)
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clegg1966

I have had a suggestion sent to me in a staff suggestion scheme about using the new drone cameras and remote controls to carry out roof inspections prior to carrying out roofing repairs. my question to anyone is, apart from the legal implications around privacy etc. can anyone see a downside?

This would mean less use of ladders and hoist etc.
George_Young  
#2 Posted : 16 July 2015 15:37:53(UTC)
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George_Young

Depending on the drone, A friend of mine works for a media production company and say's that for the drone those use (Which requires 2 people) they had to get a licence.

I have a hobbist drone and its great fun to fly :)

How often do you inspect roofs? it is a safer alternative without a doubt tho
PH2  
#3 Posted : 16 July 2015 15:50:55(UTC)
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PH2

You may fall foul of the Civil Aviation Authority (small unmanned aircraft).

https://www.caa.co.uk/de...id=1995&pageid=16012

PH2

Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 16 July 2015 16:22:28(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

The CAA information at the link doesn't present any impediment I can see. The task doesn't meet my definition of "surveillance." The operator MUST maintain visual contact.

Great idea. I recall making it on this Forum yonks ago. Downside I suppose is you don't usually get any indication of nail-sick until you're up there close and personal.
Safety Smurf  
#5 Posted : 16 July 2015 16:29:14(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Good idea and one I've thought about myself (make for an interesting expenses claim!). One thing I didn't take into account is that there is a generally an exclusion zone around airfields where they cannot be used. I don't know if these vary but the one I noticed recently was 6 miles!
toe  
#6 Posted : 16 July 2015 18:37:40(UTC)
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toe

My advice is don't try and fly it over the 'White House' lol...
Ian A-H  
#7 Posted : 16 July 2015 19:18:26(UTC)
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Ian  A-H

We've been round this buoy. The following applies to COMMERCIAL use (which includes surveying) Generally, having a camera mounted on a drone means it is captured by the Air Navigation Order (and the Data Protection Act). It's a pretty complicated piece of legislation, but briefly: The UAV's weight determines what certificates are required, but for the type of job you describe the UAV will need a certificate of airworthiness, the organisation will need to produce an Ops Manual, the pilot will need operating permission from the CAA (not a licence) - to get this the pilot will need training by an approved body (there are only 2) and third party insurance, among a whole raft of other restrictions. Cost in the order of £3K.

Worth looking into, if you have a lot of work to do, but may be cheaper to use a contractor (who has all the above in place).

DON'T use a mate whole bought one off the internet!!!

Ian
JohnW  
#8 Posted : 18 July 2015 11:37:27(UTC)
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JohnW

Interesting thread for me, my main client installs roofing products so I ought to get ahead of the game and get the facts before one of their managers strolls into the office with something he's got off eBay. So I will follow up on the information on this thread.

One thing that might limit use of drone will be requirement go keep it in visual contact. For large factory/school/ hospital/Asda roofs that would mean their assessor would still need to get on the roof (though not going near skylights or fragile areas)
Ian A-H  
#9 Posted : 19 July 2015 09:54:45(UTC)
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Ian  A-H

Thought you all might want to see what these things are capable of:


https://vimeo.com/122570923 (arty)


https://vimeo.com/123027475 (technical)


https://vimeo.com/74118817 (how to).


I have no connection, just used them as a contractor.

Ian
Steve e ashton  
#10 Posted : 20 July 2015 11:29:26(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

A project I worked on used them for progress time lapse imaging showing the structures and landscape change from the same position over several months... Nice but not critical! They were also used for condition surveys on existing assets (distribution power lines). Main restriction in uk is the fifty metres from property not in your control... CAA can be a bit iffy if you're trying to fly anywhere in or near any urban sprawl... And as noted by others - sometimes there is no alternative to getting up close and personal with the structure being surveyed for various reasons.
johnmurray  
#11 Posted : 20 July 2015 15:01:45(UTC)
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johnmurray

Then there are other people who may use them........

http://www.constructione...ck-on-construction-work/
DaveBridle  
#12 Posted : 22 July 2015 10:33:07(UTC)
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DaveBridle

Saw this article online, and thought of this thread. Interesting thoughts especially where they say about the distances from objects, premises and buildings and use of cameras.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33612631
Ian A-H  
#13 Posted : 23 July 2015 08:15:25(UTC)
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Ian  A-H

Here's the last word, straight from the horse's mouth: NATS

http://nats.aero/blog/20...-use-drones-uk-airspace/

Useful links to more detailed info too.

Ian
Chris G  
#14 Posted : 23 July 2015 12:34:26(UTC)
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Chris G

Does this guidance apply to traditional "model" aircraft as well?
Ian A-H  
#15 Posted : 23 July 2015 16:22:03(UTC)
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Ian  A-H

Chris G wrote:
Does this guidance apply to traditional "model" aircraft as well?


Nope just UAVs, but I would expect similar restrictions given the potential for near-misses etc. Take a look at this: http://www.caa.co.uk/app...;mode=detail&id=5631

Ian
johnmurray  
#16 Posted : 12 December 2016 08:33:25(UTC)
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johnmurray

I'll throw the DPA into this. https://ico.org.uk/media...ctv-code-of-practice.pdf Page 29 onwards..

Locally, a few "lads" flew one over a naturist campsite...the farmer shotgunned it. No legal action taken, his land.
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