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matelot1965  
#1 Posted : 13 August 2015 16:58:55(UTC)
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matelot1965

I have been tasked with reviewing risk assessments within a further education establishment to determine the numbers of apprentices that lecturers could safely supervise whilst undertaking learning within an engineering workshop which contains lathes,milling machines, grinders, TIG and MIG welders, and pillar drills. I know there are a lot of variables there but I am after any specifc guidance on the matter or is it based just purely on the establishments own risk assessment. Any constructive feedback would be appreciated
paul.skyrme  
#2 Posted : 13 August 2015 17:55:22(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

Try BS4163. There is also CLEAPPS guidance, and some stuff on the Department of Education website. (Or there was the last time I did something like this!) Obviously the establishment RA would be a main part, there would be no way to set any values without knowing the layout of the workshops etc. access, egress, space around machinery, how the workshop complied wrt PUWER98, & IMHO BS4163 also. An assessment of the workshops and machinery in the way of a PUWER98 assessment of the equipment etc. and then the additional requirements of BS4163 would give you a good idea on how fundamentally safe they are. From this the "higher the score" under PUWER98/4163 then the safer, thus potentially the more trainees could be accommodated per lecturer. Establishment ethics would also come into this, perhaps even student inductions, single point lessons, & mini "sub" training courses on specific machines in small groups, buy in from the students, etc. etc. all formally documented would help. If these are 16 yr old school leavers, in daytime college then potentially less than mature students on evening classes, (perhaps even younger students in evening classes). Evening class students are "generally" paying themselves to be there, so want to be there, so want to learn, so are generally less trouble, and tend to work "with" the establishment better.
matelot1965  
#3 Posted : 13 August 2015 21:14:31(UTC)
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matelot1965

Hi Paul, Very many thanks for your detailed reply. I got some information from BS4163 in respect of teacher/pupil ratio. Although no substitute for RA it has given me a starting point cheers
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