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firesafety101  
#41 Posted : 04 September 2015 13:12:27(UTC)
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firesafety101

As my son has been mentioned I will say again that he left his apprenticeship because the vaporing was affecting his health.

Not a scientificly led reason but a coincidence that while exposed to the exhaled fumes his chest was bad and he was coughing like a Sealion continually.

Now he is home he has no cough and his chest has cleared up.

He also had a really banging headache while in work and that took a few days to clear but is clear now.

I Think most of but not all research is about what the inhaled fumes consist of and not the exhaled fumes, and not all chemicals contained in the E-cigs have been tested.

There are cheap imports on the market and indeed a black market has arisen.

The fumes he was exposed to were really thick smoke like fumes and three of them were at it simultaneously.

It was a case of they stop doing it in the workplace or my son resign, they had a chance to help him keep his apprenticeship but decided to ignore so he resigned.

The company looking after him as an apprenticeship weren't bothered at all by the situation and would not even speak to the employer about it.


johnmurray  
#42 Posted : 05 September 2015 08:13:06(UTC)
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johnmurray

"The company looking after him as an apprenticeship weren't bothered at all by the situation and would not even speak to the employer about it"

They're after the placement fee, all the rest of that admin stuff gets in the way of money.
MikeKelly  
#43 Posted : 06 September 2015 13:49:57(UTC)
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MikeKelly

Sorry Invictus only got it Weds and had the rest of my life to sort out and not always on the forum.
Still trying to sell a house to move to France!
It's a good read though, eh?
Regards
Mike
SamJen1973  
#44 Posted : 07 September 2015 12:18:13(UTC)
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SamJen1973

From my reading of the issues, including the many discussions on this forum discussions, I think there are two separate issues for consideration

Firstly, the question of whether e-cigarettes are safer or preferable to conventional tobacco cigarettes. I think, given all we know about cigarettes, it's a safe bet to state that e-cigs are safer. Obviously, that's not to say that e-cigs are without risk (lack of research, unregulated manufacture, no info long term use etc) but only that they are lower risk than cigarettes.

However, and to my second issue, the question of whether e-cigs should be banned in places where tobacco is banned. I would say yes. Because in those instances you are not comparing use of e-cigs with use of cigarettes, you are comparing them use of nothing.

The policy that I set for my company is that of no smoking or vaping in our premises. External smoking area identified. Separate external vaping area identified.

Do we have any stats on how long ex-smokers use e-cigs for before they become completely nicotine free? If people are using e-cigs as a means of stopping smoking, then I don't see how allowing them to continually puff throughout the day is helpful (obviously its helpful for those who make a profit from manufacturing an selling the devices).

Anyway, that's just my opinion on the matter. I'm sure plenty of others will disagree. How boring would it be if we all had the same opinions!
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