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matelot1965  
#1 Posted : 03 September 2015 20:34:21(UTC)
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matelot1965
Hi I am after some guidance her guys and girls. I have been asked to teach a city and guilds level 3 engineering health and safety unit for apprentices. Reading the learning outcomes I have come across one section where I have to and i quote " describe essential operator and bystander health and safety requirements in respect of PPE RPE and secure areas". After having a look at the HSE website I still did not find much to go on seems to point me to european directives on the manufacturing of equipment which I do not feel is the right way to go ( i could be wrong). This is a new course so I do not have any previous materials to guide me. Any guidance would be gratefully appreciated.
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walker  
#2 Posted : 04 September 2015 07:58:23(UTC)
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walker
Is there a comma between PPE and RPE, because then it looks fairly straightforward to me.

When you say "engineering" I assume you mean machine workshops?
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Invictus  
#3 Posted : 04 September 2015 08:04:46(UTC)
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Invictus
Look for a copy of the Machinery Regulations, I believe it is a British Standard. This will tell things like a 1 meter clear area so people passing etc can not be hurt throw projectiles etc. Not sure if that what you are looking for. It covers guarding, types of guarding, PPE RPE. If it is an engineering department they should have a copy.
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matelot1965  
#4 Posted : 04 September 2015 18:58:46(UTC)
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matelot1965
Hi Invictus thanks for the reply I will have a look at the machinery regs.

Hi Walker yep there is a comma between RPE and PPE no I do not necessarily mean engineering workshops as the course is a general engineering course not specifically fo workshops itself although there is a large work shops element within it. The course I am teaching will contain apprentices working on composite materials but the course is also suitable for Fabrication and Welding, Maintenance Installation and Commissioning,Mechanical Manufacturing,Electrical and Electronic Engineering and shipbuilding.

I understand what is meant by operator and bystander but I am not sure what city and guilds mean by it and are therefore not sure what they are looking for.

I would be grateful if you could enlighten me please as it is not straightfroward to me perhaps I am overanalysing it but I want to be sure I give the apprentices the correct information
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Kate  
#5 Posted : 06 September 2015 16:02:45(UTC)
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Kate
I am sure you are overthinking it.

It appears to mean no more than:

What PPE/RPE is needed when using various kinds of equipment? What PPE/RPE is needed for other people in the area while the work is going on? What are the requirements for keeping other people out of the work area?

These are all clearly things that the apprentices need to know, and that's why they are on the syllabus. They are also just the kind of simple thing that is asked in apprentice assessments.
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matelot1965  
#6 Posted : 06 September 2015 18:30:26(UTC)
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matelot1965
Hi Kate,

Thanks for the reply. Your reply is the route I went down as that what i though they would be after (after mulling it over for a bit). I think city and guilds have worded it badly as "essential health and safety requirements" which they have put in the syllabus points you to european directives on the manufacturing and supply of PPE, machinery etc
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Kate  
#7 Posted : 06 September 2015 19:07:15(UTC)
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Kate
Oh, I see - it seems very unlikely to me that they mean essential health and safety requirements as in what is required to CE mark PPE etc - that's not something that apprentices would need to know, whereas they do need to know what is essential to keep them safe.
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matelot1965  
#8 Posted : 06 September 2015 20:56:41(UTC)
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matelot1965
Kate wrote:
Oh, I see - it seems very unlikely to me that they mean essential health and safety requirements as in what is required to CE mark PPE etc - that's not something that apprentices would need to know, whereas they do need to know what is essential to keep them safe.


Kate could not agree more
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