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chas  
#1 Posted : 14 September 2015 11:01:06(UTC)
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chas

The notion of having blue first aid boxes is a new one for me. Indeed it seems to be contrary to the HSE's guidance which suggests the need for green ones. I am being told that blue first aid boxes must now be used in kitchen areas, (I have asked for clarification). Does anyone know of such a requirement? The premises where this has become an issue is in Wales which leads me to ask whether or not this is a specific Welsh regulatory requirement - do any Welsh safety practitioners know if there is such a requirement? Thanks in advance.
Safety Smurf  
#2 Posted : 14 September 2015 11:22:26(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

News to me? is this perhaps a case of 'lost in translation'? a first aid kit for use in a catering environment should certainly have blue plasters in it so I suppose its possible they might get referred to as 'blue' first aid kits and somewhere down the line somebody has taken that quite literally?
StJohn01  
#3 Posted : 14 September 2015 11:50:59(UTC)
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StJohn01

I think there is a new British Standard that applies to catering as I have recentluy noticed them included in the ARCO catalogue, but not sure of compliance timescales?
chas  
#4 Posted : 14 September 2015 12:14:34(UTC)
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chas

Thanks to you both. StJohn01 do you (or anyone else) have any idea what British Standard that may be?
James Robinson  
#5 Posted : 14 September 2015 12:52:23(UTC)
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James Robinson

Blue is used in catering, rather than green because there are not many natural coloured blue foods. Hence the blue plasters, hairnets, gloves, etc - so you can see it in a salad, meat, etc
I therefore imagine that the blue first aid box is an extension of this (Food Hygiene and Food Safety Legislation - talk to your local Environmental Health Officer at the Council). At some very large catering facilities not only is blue used (plasters, hairnets, gloves, etc) but any plastic or glass which is not blue in colour has to be audited regularly for damage, so that you know if some glass has dropped in some food, or plastic etc.
You sometimes see the consequneces of this at supermarkets etc when at the enterance they have announced a product recall for a batch of serial numbers on food due to the chance of broken glass fragments etc.
teh_boy  
#6 Posted : 14 September 2015 14:05:48(UTC)
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teh_boy

http://www.cateringfirst...ue-product-category.html

I assume it's just so you know the contents are... well blue...

@StJohn01 - hello from a Southwest St John member - (Paignton) - Are you command having a 01 prefix :) **salutes**
Jonathan Hughes  
#7 Posted : 14 September 2015 15:26:36(UTC)
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Jonathan Hughes

Hi, yes I've noticed a lot of these appearing in catering and food manufacturing sites. The first one I saw was in a popcorn factory. BS5899-1 was the British standard for first aid kits introduced in 2011. It seems the blue catering kits sprung up since then, although I'm not aware that the colour of the kit is specified in the standard - and even if it is, the BS is not law. As pointed out above, its a visual indicator that the contents will be blue. Personally I wouldn't remove in date green kits for blue ones, but as and when they need replacing, then blue kits in a kitchen would make sense.
All the best, Jon
Invictus  
#8 Posted : 14 September 2015 15:33:21(UTC)
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Invictus

Why do blue boxes in kitchens make sense, in case you drop it in the soup you'll be able to see it.

It doesn't matter what colour the box is it is the contents that matter!
Jonathan Hughes  
#9 Posted : 14 September 2015 15:35:19(UTC)
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Jonathan Hughes

Hi, yes I've noticed a lot of these appearing in catering and food manufacturing sites. The first one I saw was in a popcorn factory. BS5899-1 was the British standard for first aid kits introduced in 2011. It seems the blue catering kits sprung up since then, although I'm not aware that the colour of the kit is specified in the standard - and even if it is, the BS is not law. As pointed out above, its a visual indicator that the contents will be blue. Personally I wouldn't remove in date green kits for blue ones, but as and when they need replacing, then blue kits in a kitchen would make sense.
All the best, Jon
Invictus  
#10 Posted : 14 September 2015 15:37:49(UTC)
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Invictus

Why do blue boxes in kitchens make sense, in case you drop it in the soup you'll be able to see it.

It doesn't matter what colour the box is it is the contents that matter!
Jane Blunt  
#11 Posted : 14 September 2015 15:45:57(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

The relevant British Standard for first aid kits is BS 8599-1 (not as stated above).

It specifies the colour of the cross symbol and the lettering, but not the background!

BS EN 7010 specifies the symbols and the colours, and shows a first aid sign as a white cross on a green background.
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