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Hi,
I need a few emergency lights replacing in our factory, which are approximately 25 feet up suspended from a steel beam.
The electrician has asked that we hire a scissor lift so he can gain access to the lights, but he has told me that although he is competent to use a scissor lift, he hasn't been trained.
I'm thinking that he needs to have received MEWP training before I let him use it, am I right???
Thanks,
KJC
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Operators have died when trapped in the MEWP basket or when the machine has overturned. Great care must be taken to select the most appropriate MEWP and ensure that use of the machine is properly planned and managed. Operator instruction and training are very important requirements.
MEWP operators should have attended a recognised operator training course (eg IPAF) and received a certificate, card or ‘licence’, listing the categories of MEWP the bearer is trained to operate.
In addition to formal training for the type of MEWP, operators should have familiarisation training on the controls and operation of the specific make and model of MEWP they are using.
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I agree with Admin although there is no leagal requirement to have IPAF training, operator training can be given by the hire firm and unfortunately this suffices.
I would always go the IPAF route.
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admin7839 wrote:
MEWP operators should have attended a recognised operator training course (eg IPAF) and received a certificate, card or ‘licence’, listing the categories of MEWP the bearer is trained to operate.
Thank you for your reply!
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KJC wrote:Hi,
I need a few emergency lights replacing in our factory, which are approximately 25 feet up suspended from a steel beam.
The electrician has asked that we hire a scissor lift so he can gain access to the lights, but he has told me that although he is competent to use a scissor lift, he hasn't been trained.
Go to one of the hire centres and ask to hire a Scissor Lift AND Operator for the day. If it's not a regular occurrence, problem solved. It looks like you were going to have to pay for the hire of the MEWP regardless.
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Invictus wrote:I agree with Admin although there is no leagal requirement to have IPAF training, operator training can be given by the hire firm and unfortunately this suffices.
So as long as I get the tool hire company to show the electrician how to use the scissor lift, there's no reason why he cannot then use it and carry out the job?!
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A MEWP is work equipmentand is therefore subject to the requirements of PUWER. The extract below is taken from Reg 9.
Every employer shall ensure that all persons who use work equipment
have received adequate training for purposes of health and safety, including training
in the methods which may be adopted when using the work equipment, any risks
which such use may entail and precautions to be taken.
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saferay wrote:A MEWP is work equipmentand is therefore subject to the requirements of PUWER. The extract below is taken from Reg 9.
Every employer shall ensure that all persons who use work equipment
have received adequate training for purposes of health and safety, including training
in the methods which may be adopted when using the work equipment, any risks
which such use may entail and precautions to be taken.
Saferay is quite right. This is a classic H&S legislation approach of 'it's up to you to work out what is safe, we'll just nail you if you get it wrong'. In fairness, this approach seems to have had some success over the last 40 years...
More constructively I suggest that you get the guy formally trained. It is only a day, there are plenty of providers out there and it will be useful if he needs to go back up in the future as you can simply hire in the lift and get on with it. Remember that he needs to be competent to check that the lift is safe to use as well as being able to handle it, particularly if the job goes on over more than one day.
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Passengers are allowed - the person operating the MEWP (at the controls) must be suitably trained.
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As others have said. Scissor lift is an item of work equipment so Regulation 9 of PUWER apply to this situation.
There is no way I would permit anyone to operate a scissor lift without evidence of them having received formal and documented training. Having the hire company show the electrician how to operate the scissor lift is not even close to being appropriate training in my opinion.
I would also require a supervisor to have had training particularly in the lowering from the ground and have an emergency plan in place.
Consideration must also be given to the requirements of regulation 5 of the WAH Regulations which requires that:
"every employer shall ensure that no person engages in any activity, including organisation, planning and supervision, in relation to work at height or work equipment for use in such work unless he is competent to do so or, if being trained, is being supervised by a competent person."
Dave
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David68 wrote:
There is no way I would permit anyone to operate a scissor lift without evidence of them having received formal and documented training. Having the hire company show the electrician how to operate the scissor lift is not even close to being appropriate training in my opinion.
Hi Dave,
Thank you for your reply, I'm not comfortable with it either so I'm going to look at alternatives.
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