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Jake  
#1 Posted : 28 September 2015 16:02:13(UTC)
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Jake

All, I'm a little rusty on the scope of liability for health and safety for non-employees, so would appreciate a steer! Details given below, happy to provide more if needed. I've been asked to clarify if my employee has a duty of care towards franchise operators and their staff with respect to driving on company business. - My employer is a retailer who operates multiple business models - company owned / company operated sites (COCO) and company owned / franchised operated sites (COFO) - The question relates to COFO workforce - My employer owns the COFO asset and the COFO franchisee is not an employee of my employer. - The COFO franchisee has little to no control on ways of working - my employer provides the equipment / training / safety manuals / risk assessments / procedures etc. for operating the site i.e. the franchisee does as they are told - We treat COFO sites the same as COCO sites for reporting point of view - The reason a COO franchisee (or their employees) would be travelling on business, would be because my employer has requested they attend a meeting or training event - The franchisee is "managed" by an area manager who will have a selection of COC) and COFO sites within their "area" My initial thoughts are that from a HSSE perspective, my employer has liability as we control the ways of working, directs what they do etc. Moreover we already provide the franchise with our safety systems, procedures etc. and expect them to comply with them. My line manager thinks differently, however I'm struggling to find something written down that provides a definitive stance? Any help appreciated!
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 28 September 2015 16:12:45(UTC)
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RayRapp

Complex question but really a simple answer - the employer would have a duty pursuant to s2 or 3 of HSAW. So the status of an individual does not really matter. That said, where your employer has control over another person, clearly from your thread they do, the 'master/servant' principle would apply, hence that person would most likely be deemed an employee from a h&s perspective. In cases where there is deemed to be another duty holder there may be a joint liability but this would depend on the individual circumstances.
bob youel  
#3 Posted : 28 September 2015 16:26:15(UTC)
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bob youel

RR has hit the nail on the head
Jake  
#4 Posted : 28 September 2015 16:33:31(UTC)
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Jake

Thanks Ray, exactly as my thinking. Is the master/servant principle enshrined in law or found in case law? Any direction to resources appreciated, as that's what I'm struggling with.
jwk  
#5 Posted : 28 September 2015 16:43:14(UTC)
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jwk

You could start here https://en.wikipedia.org...liability_in_English_law Where would be without Wikipedia eh? John
Granlund40055  
#6 Posted : 28 September 2015 16:47:18(UTC)
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Granlund40055

The HSE website on enforcement may have the answer you are searching for re contracts of employment and master/servant relationships See http://www.hse.gov.uk/en...tion/status-contract.htm
aud  
#7 Posted : 29 September 2015 12:33:46(UTC)
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aud

There was a similar thread on this in November 2013. Franchise operators are normally self-employed (or running under their own company). They are neither contractors nor employees of the franchisor. They may be provided with premises which are owned by the franchisor, who is then effectively the landlord. They may be provided with equipment, machinery etc. for the purpose of replicating the brand, in which case the franchisor is the supplier or lessee. Systems of work are usually for the purpose of replicating the brand, so I can see the cross-over with safety systems and controls. However, the franchisee (as self-employed owner-operator) is legally responsible for H&S along with compliance with tax, financial, food safety, trading standards legislation etc. The parent franchisor may well offer help and support, but this may be interpreted as just that - help. If there is an inherent (H&S) flaw in any of the above, the franchisor may well be liable, but under the relevant duties of landlord or supplier. However, the franchisee (as self-employed owner-operator) is legally responsible for H&S, along with compliance with tax, financial, food safety, trading standards legislation etc. The parent franchisor may well offer help and support, but this may be interpreted as just that - help. The contract may also throw some light on the relationship. There is no 'employer/contractor' relationship, nor 'master/servant'. The reason the HSE does not mention franchises is because they are neither of these. Who pays tax? Can be quite helpful. I am required to drive to work, to be at work - but that does not make my employer responsible for my commute.
RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 29 September 2015 15:36:27(UTC)
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RayRapp

aud Very interested in your comments ad where this information came from. I readily admit I'm not too familiar with franchise contracts. However I suspect the issues you have highlighted are not so black and white. For example, the OP states - The COFO franchisee has little to no control on ways of working - my employer provides the equipment / training / safety manuals / risk assessments / procedures etc. for operating the site i.e. the franchisee does as they are told...My initial thoughts are that from a HSSE perspective, my employer has liability as we control the ways of working, directs what they do etc. Moreover we already provide the franchise with our safety systems, procedures etc. and expect them to comply with them. The above indicates a certain level of h&s responsibility. I think it would be difficult for s3 HSWA not to apply given the level of control. The franchisee is bordering on a sub-contractor level. Happy to be proved wrong.
aud  
#9 Posted : 30 September 2015 12:45:21(UTC)
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aud

British Franchising Association: The following key rules must apply to the business model for it to be considered a “Business Format Franchise”: The business must involve a trademark The business must have a defined and proven method of trading (proven system) The franchisor and franchisee must use a license (Franchise Agreement) to use the trademark, which must be adopted and paid for by all franchisees The franchisee must be able to sell the business on to a third party with the benefit of the goodwill derived from developing the business over time What isn’t a franchise? A number of businesses will run expansion models which may be very close to franchising but do not meet the specific criteria to be considered a “Business Format Franchise”. These are most likely to be some form of licence agreement or partnership. Franchising as a business model is not mentioned in H&S material, and some would say it does not need to be, as franchisees are separately self-employed, and therefore the law is clear - each employer to their own. The example of City Link failure last year may help; those directly employed were made redundant. The many franchised s/e drivers were out on their own. From a H&S perspective the question would be around 'undertaking'. It is possible that in the future this is widened to include franchisee businesses within the parent franchise, but it has not been thus far. I have 'R - Replied' to each point in the post specifically below. - "My employer owns the COFO asset and the COFO franchisee is not an employee of my employer". R: If not an employee, what are they? Franchises normally operate under an Agreement (contract). If a proper franchise they are the owner and self-employed. Franchises are managed contractually under the Agreement, but this is unlikely to make the franchise owner-operator a contractor in the usual sense. - "The COFO franchisee has little to no control on ways of working - my employer provides the equipment / training / safety manuals / risk assessments / procedures etc. for operating the site i.e. the franchisee does as they are told." R: This is the contractual agreement as above. (they may actually have more control than is perceived). If they are not an employee, (as established) then they will have their own legal duties (not just H&S!) as self-employed, running their own 'undertaking'. - "We treat COFO sites the same as COCO sites for reporting point of view" R: Why? RIDDOR is employer duty. Probably historically this has been adopted, but is not really good practice. It may be that internal incident information is useful, the post does not separate the two. I would question the appropriateness / legality of this if RIDDOR is included. - "The reason a COO franchisee (or their employees) would be travelling on business, would be because my employer has requested they attend a meeting or training event" R: See my previous response on general expectation of attending meetings etc. Does not transfer liability. - "The franchisee is "managed" by an area manager who will have a selection of COC) and COFO sites within their "area" . R: Well, the term 'managed' is somewhat questioned in the post. It is normal for franchisors to oversee their franchisees - again mainly to protect the brand / product, but also to offer business support as the better the franchise does, the better for the franchisor. However, I daresay there is a historical perception that this equates to 'managing'. I say it equates to overseeing, possibly consulting, and details should be set out in contract as 'brand / product quality assurance'. "My initial thoughts are that from a HSSE perspective, my employer has liability as we control the ways of working, directs what they do etc. Moreover we already provide the franchise with our safety systems, procedures etc. and expect them to comply with them." R: I don't think that they DO control absolutely, if it is a proper franchise. Does the franchisor pay tax for the franchisee? Would the franchisor defend any action against franchisee for breach of tax rules, food hygiene etc? And pay fines? If there was a breach of H&S down to the franchisee following specified 'rules' from the franchisor, there may well be a further trace 'up the line' by the enforcer, but likely to be pursued as the 'consultant' providing (wrong) advice (or flawed machine, materials, process etc.) The employer owning the franchise is a separate legal entity and undertaking. They (and franchisor!) may not even realise how this works. The agreement may / should clarify. If I were advising the 'parent' company, I would re-evaluate the (H&S) procedures which are provided, possibly re-visit the agreement, and make it clear that the franchisee is responsible for compliance with the law, but that any information is provided to help them do this in the context of their own business.
RayRapp  
#10 Posted : 30 September 2015 13:22:19(UTC)
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RayRapp

Thanks aud for the clarification. The whole process seems as clear as mud to me. I once worked on a franchised railway, but this operated much differently than the COCO/COFO the OP has highlighted. Interestingly there was a section of the line which was managed by a different organisation who were a franchisee and their own legal entity but came under own control for some railway operations. Much discussion was had as to the legal ramifications if there should be a serious incident. I definitely would concur with your last paragraph. Ray
aud  
#11 Posted : 01 October 2015 13:52:51(UTC)
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aud

Ray. Your experience in rail - doesn't sound like a proper franchise to me, probably could have been unpicked into client/contractor/master/servant. No wonder it's confusing! However, a proper franchise arrangement is a way of setting up an independent business without the pain and uncertainty of starting from scratch, by 'buying into' an existing brand. Examples range from car dent repairers to MacDonalds restaurants. Maybe hospital trusts could be termed franchises of the NHS? It's all about the brand . . .
Xavier123  
#12 Posted : 01 October 2015 15:12:48(UTC)
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Xavier123

My own take on this, based entirely upon personal interpretation, is in line with the last elements of what aud has written. The parent company (my description) provides the rules, systems and equipment. The franchisee has the primary duty of providing safe workplace, instruction etc. It is their job to make sure the rules are followed - the parent may audit etc. but it is likely to be in relation to brand protection. In all honesty, there are not many occasions in large organisations when the fundamental rules underpinning a safe system are inherently flawed or incorrect (although equipment design etc. can be found wanting on occasion!). So the most likely mode of failure would be for the franchisee to NOT follow the systems in some way. They would be the likely culprit in this case and I can't see how the parent company would be drawn in - other than as a witness of fact as to their systems etc. It may start to get a little messy if the parent audits the franchises for h&s compliance (and has knowledge of failures) - but even then this could be about brand protection alone. Is a McDonalds franchise any different to another McDonalds in the eyes of the public? Only in the context of s.3 or maybe s.6 can I see the main supplier of systems being involved where the system, advice or equipment was flawed or found to be lacking and (as aud describes) in such a situation the regulator may well follow the pathway up to the parent organisation and take action there too.
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