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Guyzy1982  
#1 Posted : 28 October 2015 11:42:29(UTC)
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Guyzy1982

Does anyone have any information to prevent exposure to second hand smoke in the form of legal highs (Spice, black mamba, etc....) The area i work now has an influx of these substances which has caused second hand effects to others; I am looking into preventing second hand smoke inhalation using FFP2 masks, but not 100% sure if they will reduce or eliminate substances relating to legal highs, i am going to speak to the company that produce the FFP2 masks but wondering if anyone has any experience about this and how to eliminate the exposure to others.
Invictus  
#2 Posted : 28 October 2015 12:14:37(UTC)
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Invictus

I have PM'd you
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 28 October 2015 12:53:56(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

A No Smoking Policy? Or is this community-based work?
Guyzy1982  
#4 Posted : 28 October 2015 13:28:37(UTC)
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Guyzy1982

No its a 'secure' building Ron; smoking policies in place but extremely difficult to manage.
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 28 October 2015 17:05:28(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Hmmm. Other reports on-line suggest strong links to significant increase in violence, including attacks on staff. Doing nothing about that won't go down well with HSE. And a word of warning: A half-mask pulled from the wearer's face and then let go is a VERY painful experience. If this is indeed a "secure" building, I suggest additional rigour with room, building and personal searching to confiscate the material.
toe  
#6 Posted : 28 October 2015 22:01:37(UTC)
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toe

If this is the type of setting I think it is, a powerful extractor fan in the ‘smoking room’ will help –reduce the time staff will be in the room and consider times when exposure is at its lowest level when entering.
walker  
#7 Posted : 29 October 2015 07:36:37(UTC)
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walker

Toe wrote:
If this is the type of setting I think it is, a powerful extractor fan in the ‘smoking room’ will help –reduce the time staff will be in the room and consider times when exposure is at its lowest level when entering.
I agree In other words use better risk controls than PPE
Invictus  
#8 Posted : 29 October 2015 08:47:42(UTC)
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Invictus

I don't believe there is a smoking room, I think the persons 'room' (not it's normal name) is classed as an adode and therefore smoking cannot be stopped in the persons 'room'. It is very difficult even with searching etc to prevent this coming in. The HSE understand the problems these types of establishments pose to employees due to the type of people placed in them.
Corfield35303  
#9 Posted : 30 October 2015 15:45:49(UTC)
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Corfield35303

'Legal High' is a very misleading term for these dangerous drugs, generally referred to now as New Psychoactive Substances or NPS. As the composition of NPS changes so rapidly, then finding effective PPE to counter, other than full might be difficult. If these people are in some kind of provided accommodation then I'd suggest you need to make it absolutely clear that as part of their tenancy agreement that smoking these substance is not OK, and should probably have your MAPPA or safeguarding alarm bells ringing too. Several deaths associated with use of NPS in Newcastle, I'll PM you.
Invictus  
#10 Posted : 30 October 2015 15:49:49(UTC)
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Invictus

Corfield35303 wrote:
'Legal High' is a very misleading term for these dangerous drugs, generally referred to now as New Psychoactive Substances or NPS. As the composition of NPS changes so rapidly, then finding effective PPE to counter, other than full might be difficult. If these people are in some kind of provided accommodation then I'd suggest you need to make it absolutely clear that as part of their tenancy agreement that smoking these substance is not OK, and should probably have your MAPPA or safeguarding alarm bells ringing too. Several deaths associated with use of NPS in Newcastle, I'll PM you.
Try changing 'room' to 'cell' it becomes a little bit more difficult to tell them that you will end thier tenancy agreement.
Corfield35303  
#11 Posted : 30 October 2015 16:00:11(UTC)
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Corfield35303

Invictus - although 'secure' I'm not sure its a prison or young offenders place. If it is (and I guess it could be, so not so secure) and NPS is so commonplace then they have waaaay bigger problems than RPE.
Guyzy1982  
#12 Posted : 02 November 2015 13:03:49(UTC)
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Guyzy1982

Hi all, Sorry if my post was misleading, i think we have the gist of the premises now. My issue is the control of NPS (used legal high title as didn't think people would know NPS) and how to protect staff from second hand substances that are being used. I now have systems in place which hopefully protect my colleagues. thanks for the advice, especially those that have PM'd me.
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