The HTM 05-03 state that training should be face to face on a regular basis, dependent really on job roles - my question is how many NHS properties actually follow this training advice given in the HTM, and if you dont do you provide e-learning instead of face to face training. With thousands of staff members face to face is not really an option! Of course drills do supplement the training. Thanks SBH

My partner works for a NHS community trust and gets 'regular' (annual I think) face to face safety and fire training, so it's not impossible. If you think about it it's probably harder in a community trust than in a hospital, so if they can manage it a hospital should be able to, John

I wasn't being critical of you but rather the management for not resourcing such things and then spending twice as much putting the failing right. One trainer for 6000 is just negligent IMHO

We have 8500 members of staff with 2 fire safety advisors and we do face to face training with them all It starts with a big lecture with induction .. the induction is followed up by local induction in the ward and department were the person will be working learning procedures etc. Then staff attend annual manditory training (every year) this is refresher training goes through the basics and refresher training with things like UWFS. On top of this there are FRA visits to the wards, Training on the wards, Walk throughs specialist training with ITU theatres SCBU. All as determined by HTM 05-01 if you dont want to introduce E learning use HTM 05-03 part 4.12 and 4.13 which frowns upon e learning as a means of training as it has to be face to face with a fire safety advisor and also HTM 05-01 (2nd edition) which says that E-learning can only be used as a back up in all but the smallest healthcare organisations such as a small GP’s practice with a single-stage evacuation plan, if you use it in the larger buildings for Horizontal evacuation, or Special procedures in theatres and ITU you are asking for bother We also carry out Practice exercises with bronze silver gold command duty bed managers, this covers our 4 major hospitals. Then there are the 4 community hospitals ward visits FRA then the minor buildings were there is fire warden training. We are kept busy busy i like e learning --I dont and would never recommend it in a Hospital environment a way you could help your self is to team up with Health and safety section send a health and safety person on the courses at moreton in the march on the HTMs and Fire safety. They could then be loosly competant in delivering training. They could then deliver refresher lecture (annual Manditory) As they will know what they are talking about, they wont be able to do FRA and the legal side but can do a lecture with any questions they cant answer being pointed in your direction. Then you do the induction and the ward stuff then you wont be cut so thinly.