I’ve put my comments below into quote marks “” because I don’t know how else to make them stand out with this forum software!
eion, “JohnW,
JohnW, this is NOT a dig at you, it is merely to expand on your post.”
Alfasev is right that you'll get proper advice form electricians on that site.
“There are also Electrical Engineers there, I am there too, but, I’m here, so why go there! ;)”
I am not an electrician but had/shared this advice regarding regulations:
“I am, & I hold a JIB Gold card, also I am a qualified & registered Engineer with the EngC.”
the electrical installations and systems of work on the site should comply with the Electricity at Work regulations (1989)
“I would say MUST comply with EAWR89.”
the HSE regard BS7671 as a method of achieving compliance with EAWR89
“Yes. However there are others, but, not definition of what those others are! ;)”
to comply with BS7671 requires inspection, testing and certification to BS7671
“Yes. No doubt. Definitely.”
an industrial factory MUST have its installation works certified fully to comply with EAWR89
“Any site MUST to comply with EAWR, IF you are going down the BS7671 route, any site MUST have full certification etc. in accordance with BS7671.”
the site electrician can certify the site installations if suitably qualified, with a suitable planned and preventative maintenance regime in place, with all works undertaken in accordance with BS7671 and documented accordingly
“IF the company has a full and traceable PPM system in place, with full certification against BS7671 for any modifications or new works, then BS7671 allows that EICR’s are not required.”
the site electrician should have access to the relevant test equipment, calibrated or otherwise verified as suitable to meet the requirements of BS7671, provided & maintained by the company
“Also calibrated or otherwise verified at the companies expense, and it’s a MUST, not a should, else you can’t comply with BS7671. Also, “he” MUST be competent to use it and undertake the works.”
the site electrician should be certified to IET 17th Edition course
“Only if he is working on the fixed installation, which is what we are talking about though.
Plus, the 17th Ed. Course ONLY teaches one the way around a book, it does NOT teach how to comply with the boo, it does NOT teach how to I&T, it does NOT teach how to install.
Yes, I do know this for a fact, apart from holding the qualification, I have and can teach it too, as well as being registered as an examiner for the higher level I&T exams with C&G.”
The amended IET Wiring Regulations BS 7671:2008 have had an Amendment No. 3:2015
“Yes, but not a “huge” impact on industrial.
A few things, but not as much as those on domestic! ;)”
Regulation PUWER98 requires that machinery is correctly maintained electrically, so the site electrician must be trained, competent and familiar with EN 60204-1 & the associated A, B & C type standards for the machinery, especially if he is undertaking modifications, no matter how minor, as well as repairs
“Also, one MUST consider the implications of any modifications on the CE marking of the machinery, EN60204-1 is only part of the puzzle, as you say there are other standards, the A standard, and the various B & C standards.”
inspection and certification of electrical installations should comply with the observation code system in BS7671; C1, C2, C3
“If one is complying with BS7671 then that is a given.”
Testing documentation has been updated:
Electrical Installation Certificate (EIC) documents and
Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR) forms
“Yes in Amd3, but, that would be known by the people undertaking the I&T if required, IF they are competent.”
the Periodic Inspection and Testing documentation for all installations should demonstrate compliance with 17th ed amendments to those documents.
“Only if I&T is required, and if it is those undertaking it must be competent, so thus, must be fully familiar with these requirements already.
Don’t also forget that there is compliance with MHSWR & PUWER to consider.”