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Roz  
#1 Posted : 18 January 2016 07:12:42(UTC)
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Roz

The H&S team are currently reviewing the PUWER assessment which is at least 8 pages long, very wordy and not assessor/employee friendly. On observation is not read by employees. Can other members provide any templates that they use and advise how the risks are communicated to Employees for work equipment. Many thanks.
David Bannister  
#2 Posted : 18 January 2016 09:44:53(UTC)
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David Bannister

My advice to my clients is that the documented RA's are not necessarily meant to be read or understood by all employees; they are for legal compliance and a base from which to allow a set of safe working procedures to be developed. PUWER is very far-reaching and may well need a very thorough/lengthy documented approach, depending on the equipment (compare Trigger's brush to a robotic assembly machine). The safety instructions should be clear and concise and in language that the users will understand.
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 18 January 2016 11:40:06(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

What is a "PUWER assessment"?
gramsay  
#4 Posted : 18 January 2016 14:57:10(UTC)
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gramsay

Ron Hunter wrote:
What is a "PUWER assessment"?
That's exactly what I was thinking. "Work equipment" covers everything from those big trucks that trundle spaceships out to their launch pads, to the keyboard I'm typing this on. I've never in my life formally inspected my keyboard other than to cringe at what might lie within, but I hope those fancy trucks get something slightly more intensive. If you let people know what kinds of equipment you want to inspect I'm sure there'll be some suggestions, but if you're working in a system which genuinely has a generic "PUWER assessment" then you probably have our sympathies, and no wonder it's 8 pages long and horrible. Not meant to be flippant, by the way - I'm sure there's some great examples from people here of more targeted assessments for particular equipment types.
David Bannister  
#5 Posted : 18 January 2016 15:20:09(UTC)
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David Bannister

gramsay wrote:
"Work equipment" covers everything from those big trucks that trundle spaceships out to their launch pads, to the keyboard I'm typing this on. Ha, looking at the OP's Groups they may well need the long version!
Bigmac1  
#6 Posted : 18 January 2016 18:13:02(UTC)
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Bigmac1

To simpyfy things, make the PUWER assessment into a form, do one assessment for each piece of equipment that has the potential to cause serious harm, thats the important part so things like computers, spirit levels etc are taken out of the equasion I.E do them for things such as lathes,heavy plant and things such as grinders, make the form from the regulations to take into account things such as environment,. The assessment needs to be done prior to first use.
toe  
#7 Posted : 19 January 2016 00:38:05(UTC)
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toe

David Bannister wrote:
My advice to my clients is that the documented RA's are not necessarily meant to be read or understood by all employees; they are for legal compliance and a base from which to allow a set of safe working procedures to be developed. quote] Absolutely. We sometimes overburden staff with RA in which they simply do-not need to see. Where appropriate, communicating and checking the safe way of working often gets my vote.
Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 19 January 2016 09:38:43(UTC)
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Roundtuit

When you involve those affected by the work in the process of developing the RA, safe working practices etc. you get buy in and ownership across the work force. Turn up with reams of legal backside covering paper (as I have seen several consultants do) and you achieve the opposite of the desired positive H&S culture. Across my employments the safest, happiest and most productive have been those where the management philosphy avoids dictat and activley promotes involvement. How many posts over the years on this forum have discussed blanket PPE? Generally implemented where an RA has been developed in isolation without the active involvement of those impacted by the rules. Even in the more complex area of PUWER getting the people you expect to operate the machine to participate early in the process (especially for bespoke equipment) can head off possible future bad working practice as they invariably have a different perspective and ask questions the designer, fabricator and specifier do not consider.
Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 19 January 2016 09:38:43(UTC)
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Roundtuit

When you involve those affected by the work in the process of developing the RA, safe working practices etc. you get buy in and ownership across the work force. Turn up with reams of legal backside covering paper (as I have seen several consultants do) and you achieve the opposite of the desired positive H&S culture. Across my employments the safest, happiest and most productive have been those where the management philosphy avoids dictat and activley promotes involvement. How many posts over the years on this forum have discussed blanket PPE? Generally implemented where an RA has been developed in isolation without the active involvement of those impacted by the rules. Even in the more complex area of PUWER getting the people you expect to operate the machine to participate early in the process (especially for bespoke equipment) can head off possible future bad working practice as they invariably have a different perspective and ask questions the designer, fabricator and specifier do not consider.
Roz  
#10 Posted : 19 January 2016 14:32:53(UTC)
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Roz

Thanks for the replies to date. I was really after examples of Work Equipment Assessments forms/templaes, which members may have carried out to see if we could improve our existing form. Any help appreciated.
JohnW  
#11 Posted : 19 January 2016 14:50:54(UTC)
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JohnW

Roz, I do PUWER Assessments, and, for those above asking what it is, well it is an inspection form that goes through various questions relating to the PUWER regs. I can't copy you my form but the questions are prepared by a careful study of the ACoP plus a bit of own judgement and experience (I'm on version 18 of the form since starting this in 2007). So the first set of questions/observations are on the Equipment and the requirements of Regs 4,5,6 and 7, suitability, maintenance, ergonomics. Then questions for Regs 8, 9 on Training. Then Regs 11,12 on Dangerous Parts and Unsafe Condition Reg 13 on Temperature Regs 14 - 18 on Controls and Control Systems Reg 19 Isolation from Energy Source etc etc for Stability, Lighting, more on maintenance, Markings, Warnings and Specific Site Conditions consider. A little table to confirm the hazards identified, and risk evaluation (refer to a matrix) All that is on 4 pages. Each question is worded so that YES is good/acceptable, and has answer choice of Yes/No/na Any 'No' answers refer on to page 5 of the form. Page 5 has sections on Remedial actions required, Discussions and other Comments, and a History section which might detail why a guard is designed or previous accidents etc. So that kind of assessment can be worked out by reading the ACoP and creating relevant questions. The reason I have reached version 18? There are so many types of equipment, new, old, second-hand, home-made, poor maintenance, poor training etc etc - I come across a new problem every so often. John
grim72  
#12 Posted : 19 January 2016 15:15:02(UTC)
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grim72

Roz wrote:
Thanks for the replies to date. I was really after examples of Work Equipment Assessments forms/templaes, which members may have carried out to see if we could improve our existing form. Any help appreciated.
I've sent you a link on PM, might be of use for you.
JeffArkle  
#13 Posted : 19 January 2016 15:33:22(UTC)
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JeffArkle

Have a look at the template on page 123 of H&S in Engineering Workshops http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/hsg129.htm
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