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We put some big plant on a site today which was seriously muddy. Crews spoke to site and said lace up boots were no use as mud to deep . All men had rigger boots but were told they could not use them . The Safety man came along and said if the company brought them in steel toe capped wellingtons they would be allowed. Could anyone tell me why wellies and not riggers? I did not find out till pm or it would have been a very expensive day for the customer until the mud was cleared. I will be going to site in the morning but what kind of people are out there or is there something magical about wellingtons that I don't know.
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Another reason H&S has such a bad name!
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I'm going to have a guess at this one. Rigger boots are lined with fur (not real fur of course) which often makes them one or two sized too big, and therefore very loosely fitted, presumably these could get stuck in the mud more easily that wellies.
Not to laugh, but I did hear a story about an apprentice 'fell out of his boots' because the rigger boots were too loose, his boot got stuck on a scaffold board and he fell off the scaffolding and injured himself. His boots were left on the scaffold platform.
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I agree with Paul and lace up boots were the only thing that worked on the western front in WW1 so who is kidding who. As for the pros and cons of rigger boots well that subject has been done to death and wellies are useless in real mud?
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I once had a pair of wellingtons!
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I wore black Wellies in the fire brigade because the leather boots issued were always a poor fit for me. Wellies were always slightly too big and made my feet sweat and hurt.
I was stuck with them however. They also hurt the back of my leg where the top of the welly contacted my leg.
Advantages of wellies include waterproof and resistance to some chemicals, also easy to clean.
What I did find strange was on the inside of one was the letter 'L'. and the other the letter 'R'.
Never did find out why ha ha
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FireSafety101 it is the order you put them on :-
R = right this one first
L = Leave to last
Chris
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Comes back to PPE needing to be task/site specific and not subject to a blanket rule.
In utilities rigger boots are fairly common practice. I suspect they are not allowed in mainstream construction due to a lack of ankle support and do not normally have steel toe caps, whereas wellies do have come with steel toe caps.
Clearly there are some tasks where rigger boots are not suitable, however working in trenches, excavations and other ground works where water ingress is a problem they are suitable in my opinion.
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Invictus wrote:I once had a pair of wellingtons! Good lad - best post so far.
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Previous posts on this very subject. Apparently some have assessed that ankle injuries are common with rigger boots due to lack of support and/or fur lining.
Just saying
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douglas.dick wrote:Previous posts on this very subject. Apparently some have assessed that ankle injuries are common with rigger boots due to lack of support and/or fur lining.
Just saying Indeed, but laceup boots allow water ingress and are not permitted for asbestos removal either. Nothing is perfick, but that should not prevent a modicum of good sense to prevail.
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A pair of wellies that hurt the back of legs! now come on, it must be Friday.
My spiderman wellies never hurt my legs, but my wife wouldn't go out with me when I had them on, she told me that at 50 they looked stupid, but i thought they went with my spiderman outfit. Spoil sport.
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The rigger boot thing was dreamed up by the major contractors group a number of years ago. The reason is that they do not provide enough ankle support and they couldn’t ban wellies as there is no real alternative. It gave the incompetent buffoon fraternity something to look good doing while a crane toppled over in the background!
On a serious note I do not mind flip flops in the summer providing they are yellow.
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I had a pair of flip flops, that were broken they just went flip, flip there was no flop so I took them back, the face on the assistant was priceless.
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Wellies did hurt the back of my legs especially when wearing short trousers ha ha.
A mate of mine had a different problem, he went to see his GP because he had a pain between his goolies.
The GP had a look and advisd he cut 6 inches from the top of his wellies.
It is Friday now isn't it ????????
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FireSafety101 wrote:Wellies did hurt the back of my legs especially when wearing short trousers ha ha.
A mate of mine had a different problem, he went to see his GP because he had a pain between his goolies.
The GP had a look and advisd he cut 6 inches from the top of his wellies.
It is Friday now isn't it ????????
He must of been married, if they were that big!
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Invictus wrote:I once had a pair of wellingtons! Invictus. I once had a wellington. Don't know what happened to the other one. However, all was not lost as I used said wellington (coloured green) as a planter in my back garden. I also have a squirrel feeder and one of the little blighters buried some peanuts in my prized planter. Trouble is, when the winter really set in, the top surface of soil in the planter froze solid. Clever little Mr Squirrel found another way to his buried treasure. He chewed a hole in the side of the wellington. No more planter.
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Apparently the BMA guidance is 12” in the Caribbean and 3” in Wales!
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saferay wrote:Invictus wrote:I once had a pair of wellingtons! Invictus. I once had a wellington. Don't know what happened to the other one. However, all was not lost as I used said wellington (coloured green) as a planter in my back garden. I also have a squirrel feeder and one of the little blighters buried some peanuts in my prized planter. Trouble is, when the winter really set in, the top surface of soil in the planter froze solid. Clever little Mr Squirrel found another way to his buried treasure. He chewed a hole in the side of the wellington. No more planter. Don't be to hard on him, his poor nuts must of been frozen!
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Alfasev wrote:The rigger boot thing was dreamed up by the major contractors group a number of years ago. The reason is that they do not provide enough ankle support and they couldn’t ban wellies as there is no real alternative. It gave the incompetent buffoon fraternity something to look good doing while a crane toppled over in the background!
On a serious note I do not mind flip flops in the summer providing they are yellow.
With strong ankle supports, steel toe caps and reinforced soles !!!
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and a pair of white socks!
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