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Brown900431  
#1 Posted : 08 February 2016 15:17:33(UTC)
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Brown900431

This issue has been ongoing for a long time; each time we try a new safer method of cutting/stripping cables our electricians say they are difficult to use, blunt too easily, take too long etc.

I'm just looking for a general opinion of risk and what people are using. Is anyone using cutters or retractable stanley blades or wearing cut resistant gloves?

Has anyone got any thoughts on the problem.

Thanks!
paul.skyrme  
#2 Posted : 08 February 2016 19:11:37(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

Hi,

Now there’s cables and there’s cables!

Are we talking about data & comms, domestic twin & skin, or serious industrial SWA?

No matter what you implement it will take them longer, so first, you have to make allowances for this as a company.
Add the time for the sparks to take longer in making ends off into your business plan, quotes, processes etc. this then takes the pressure off them, and they will feel at ease working with you to find a solution.

It is difficult if not impossible to cut say a 120mm sq 5c SWA with a “Stanley” knife (other brands are available).
However, there is a chance you could cut through a Cat5 UTP with one.

Cable cutters & “Stanley” knives are not an interchangeable commodity.

I regularly still make off cable ends and from all of the descriptions I’ve given above, & use a “Stanley” knife all the time. It has been probably 20 years since I’ve cut myself using one at work to make a cable end off.

There are always options, it depends on what you want to do, and how deep the companies’ pockets are.
IMHO the company should be footing the bill for the tools, not the sparks.
If you are going to dictate consumable and durable tooling, then it’s down to, you, the company to supply it.

Gloves are just a downright pain because you lose dexterity and feeling, and are more likely to mis-judge your actions, thus cause injury, well, in my actual practical experience of still doing this, amongst other stuff.

Also, as far as blades go, a blunt blade is MUCH more dangerous than a sharp one, a sharp blade correctly applied requires little or no force to achieve the same result as a blunt one, thus, if, there is an issue and the blade “goes where it shouldn’t” then the blunt blade will have a LOT more force behind it than the sharp one, thus it is likely to be forced into causing a larger injury.

For me, it is a full review of what you are doing and what you are trying to achieve.

It’s not a simple choice between “Stanley” blades & cable cutters.

I did a small job over the weekend making off about 20 Cat5e ends, I am sorting out the wired networking around our office (which doubles as our home!), I used a “Stanley” knife to make the ends off, I didn’t cut myself at all, first thing was check the blade, is it sharp enough, no, because of what I used it for last, so new blade, then start.
However, this morning over coffee I was searching for a dedicated Cat5 cable stripper, because with a blade it’s tedious, and yes there is the potential to cause injury, but that is low on my list, because I know how to use the knife. However, I am in danger of damaging cables, and that also costs money, and is more likely than an injury.

The other thing you need to look at is training, have the guys been trained correctly to use a “Stanley”, it’s been taken out of a lot of training syllabi, because of the risk of injury due to the users not being competent to use it, because they are training, vicious circle there.

So you might need to tactfully look at who is competent to do it and who isn’t, because training these days is sadly lacking, due to the scare factor of a trainee hurting themselves.

I like to follow the Darwinian selection theories myself…

Obviously come back if you want to discuss this more.
Brown900431  
#3 Posted : 10 February 2016 15:43:40(UTC)
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Brown900431

Paul, many thanks for taking the time to write such a comprehensive reply.

I guess its the same old story, our electricians prefer the fixed blades, like you say with a sharp blade and skill they are safer and less time consuming than some other options. as a company we haven't had an injury for years. But there's been a long standing rumour that our main client has banned the use of fixed blades, but we can't find any evidence of this. But the stance would seem to be we would discourage the use of fixed blades because there are so many good alternatives available.

Maybe its time to go back to the drawing board and look at the types of cables and what type of cutter is best for each type.

Thanks again!!
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