So, having been asked by a new contact to provide a quote to conduct a Fire Risk Assessment, I asked to visit the site, free of charge, to make my initial observations to provide a quote. The company has a Health n Safety Manager who accompanied me on my visit Having visited the site and submitted a quote, which I can honestly say was at the lower end of the scale, I've been thanked, but no thanked ! During my site visit and conversations with the persons on site it was apparent there are some fairly wide gaps in the existing HSE systems, requirements and documentation in currently in place. I feel that "Someone" needs to know this at the company, but having been No Thank you'd, to give them this information for free galls a little, but is preying on my conscience. Do I relent and give them a brief synopsis of what I feel is needed as I feel that their In-House HSE guy had neither the ability or trust of the company to do this,himself, and is looking for some Free Advice and pointers.

Maybe if the H&S person is a member of IOSH they should be reminded of the code of conduct http://www.iosh.co.uk/~/...rocedure%20WEB.pdf?la=en

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You could always report it, if it is serious enough: http://webcommunities.hs...Questionnaire?qid=594147 That way you can rest assured that you have done what you can

It could be that they went out to tender and someone else came back with a better quote - not necessarily cheaper, but perhaps more suited to their requirements. You cannot assume that because they did not choose you, they won't be doing anything. It's a marketplace, some you win and some you lose. Our organisation usually gets two or three quotes for this type of work and we go with the person or team that suits us best. Given that you were invited to quote they are clearly aware that they have gaps in their competencies and are looking to plug these with external help. Just sounds to me like they got a better offer and I don't mean cheaper, I just mean more suited to what they are looking for and you could be maligning them because they made the decision not to employ you. They are perfectly entitled to do this, even if you feel you did a good job. At least they had the decency to say no and not just keep you hanging on.

You Know Hilary, for the day and half at £75/per day I quoted I can take it or leave it, but they do have problems there and I tried to make them aware of their responsibilities during my Free of Charge visits, It's not the fact I didn't get the work, for the £112.50 I would've made, I"d rather go and play golf,

Have I missed something, for £112.50..... just how serious were these problems?

Sorry PP, but if I (as H&S manager) got a quote as low as yours for a FRA, I would not take it any further - you cannot be serious charging a mere £10 an hour (more likely less). I have seen FRAs done for the £200 mark (some years ago). They were poor. That's not to say your work would be thus, just its hard to see how you can offer quality work at that price. And include a Free of Charge visit too! You cannot assume they will do nothing, and whether they so or not is really not your business.

We recently had to obtain advice regarding a legal agreement concerning collaboration with a company in Germany. The advice from the solicitor that we received was first class and played a major role in our being able to reach a very favourable conclusion to our negotiations. His fee as a commercial law specialist was £200 per hour for a two hour meeting. Bearing in mind the outcome I felt this was money well spent. As a general rule the advice from a solicitor may have implications for livelihood but is less likely to have implications for life itself. Contrast this with the advice regarding health and safety, a complex issue where inadequate advice could put life itself at severe risk. Given the responsibility that the health and safety advisor assumes and the expertise that will be needed surely the charge should reflect this. I believe the HSE charges around £120 per hour for their inspector’s time. Should our fee be any less? Chris