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Susan Vivian Bell  
#1 Posted : 03 March 2016 09:45:55(UTC)
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Susan Vivian Bell

Hi Guys,

Is there anyone out there who could help. We are installing a car charging point at work and I have been given the paperwork to look through before the work begins on Monday, could anyone point me in the direction of what I should be looking for to allow this work to go ahead.

Kind regards
Ciaran Delaney  
#2 Posted : 03 March 2016 09:53:16(UTC)
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Ciaran Delaney

Susan,

Confused as to what you're asking?

Is the contractor comptetent?

Is the equipment compliant with CE and safe for people to use?

These units are been installed in cities all across the UK and Ireland?

Could you be doing something that I have been guilty of in the past and overthinking the matter!

Best Regards,

Ciarán
Stewart C  
#3 Posted : 03 March 2016 09:55:52(UTC)
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Stewart C

Susan,

I have sent you a private message. Be very wary of approved installers and make certain they do not work live and they are trained and competent.

Reagrds,
watcher  
#4 Posted : 03 March 2016 10:29:30(UTC)
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watcher

Susan Vivian Bell wrote:
Hi Guys,

Is there anyone out there who could help. We are installing a car charging point at work and I have been given the paperwork to look through before the work begins on Monday, could anyone point me in the direction of what I should be looking for to allow this work to go ahead.

Kind regards


Susan, what is your role here, as that may help identify what you should be looking for.

Although - and I mean this in the kindest way - if you've been given the paperwork to look through, surely you would know what you should be looking for.

Or perhaps your employer has thrown you in at the deep end.

Personally, if I didn't know what to look for, I would be handing the paperwork back and saying I wasn't competent.
johnmurray  
#5 Posted : 03 March 2016 12:04:15(UTC)
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johnmurray

Hmm.
Apart from the VAT on a work charging point electricity being 20%...
And the provision of a work charge point for a private car being a benefit-in-kind, and taxable..
hilary  
#6 Posted : 03 March 2016 12:07:11(UTC)
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hilary

Susan

Check that your electrician is competent to carry out the task. Does he have a certificate of competence. Is he qualified to the IET 17th Edition Wiring Regulations (aka BS7671:1992)? Has he provided risk assessments and method statements for the work he is doing?

If he is 17th Edition qualified then he SHOULD be complying with the law in the work that he carries out.

This is how I would check his competence. Others may have other views.
stonecold  
#7 Posted : 03 March 2016 12:50:07(UTC)
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stonecold

hilary wrote:
Susan

Check that your electrician is competent to carry out the task. Does he have a certificate of competence. Is he qualified to the IET 17th Edition Wiring Regulations (aka BS7671:1992)? Has he provided risk assessments and method statements for the work he is doing?

If he is 17th Edition qualified then he SHOULD be complying with the law in the work that he carries out.

This is how I would check his competence. Others may have other views.


I agree with Hilary, although the problem you may face is that once you have received the RAMS, who is actually going to review them to ensure they are suitable and sufficient etc....Sometimes a tricky one.
Ron Hunter  
#8 Posted : 03 March 2016 13:00:46(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Have you got a Buildings or FM manager, someone more closely involved in upkeep of building services? Have a chat with them.
In the broader sense, there is a duty to ensure competency of appointment, but that should have been done at tender stage. This is a construction project, there should be a construction phase plan.

Running a new service -presumably underground, I'd focus on avoidance of existing services, protecting excavations, temporary traffic control. The charging point tends to be a modular box, there'll need to be a test and final connection to your switchboard by competent electrician.

Also worth pointing out that if people want your input, they should give you more time!! How popular are you going to be now if you cause delay by asking for further work or information?
firesafety101  
#9 Posted : 03 March 2016 20:29:46(UTC)
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firesafety101

I have one at home. It was installed by the supplier's electrical contractor who I assumed was competent.

There was a good period of time before installation to consider the best location for the point and distance from the connection to the mains.

With the domestic point there is a limit on length of cable provided from connection to the existing supply and the location of the charge point.

The cable that connects from the charge point to the car is also limited so I had to make sure the point was located in a position from which the cable would reach the car.

The cable from the mains to the charge point is clipped under the soffit board. Nice neat job. I don't know if they would excavate, not worth all that bother.

You will have to ensure the parking place for the point is only used while charging, then vacated. Otherwise trouble will ensue.

Beware of trip hazard when the cable is connectd to the car.

My car handbook warns against charging during heavy rain and thunder storms. Danger of lightning strikes and electric shock when touching the charging cable while it it powered on and soaking wet. If you can provide a canopy that would be a good idea, IMO.

I asked the salesman about this and he poo pooed it saying he never has a problem when wet. ????

I hope this has been helpful, obviously I can only speak from experince as far as domestic is concerned.



stillp  
#10 Posted : 03 March 2016 21:13:36(UTC)
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stillp

hilary wrote:
Susan

Check that your electrician is competent to carry out the task. Does he have a certificate of competence. Is he qualified to the IET 17th Edition Wiring Regulations (aka BS7671:1992)? Has he provided risk assessments and method statements for the work he is doing?

If he is 17th Edition qualified then he SHOULD be complying with the law in the work that he carries out.

This is how I would check his competence. Others may have other views.
He should be qualified to the current version Hilary: BS 7671:2008+A3:2015
paul.skyrme  
#11 Posted : 03 March 2016 21:20:29(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

IIRC it must be TT
paul.skyrme  
#12 Posted : 03 March 2016 21:27:13(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

Unless you have your own TN-S supply, or a PNB supply when you can use the supply earth.

TBH, there is little that you can do unless you are competent to design the installation, you should have selected a competent contractor in the first instance, if you don't know the questions to ask, then you need to seek help in selection, once you have appointed, then it's a bit late.
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