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Russ1977  
#1 Posted : 29 March 2016 11:34:45(UTC)
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Russ1977

Hi all, Been reading through the HSE guidance on young people and there is something that is baffling me, there is a section which says that you must consider: THE PHYSICAL, BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL AGENTS THEY WILL BE EXPOSED TO. Does anyone one have an example of a "physical" agent?? Thanks
stonecold  
#2 Posted : 29 March 2016 11:39:56(UTC)
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stonecold

Vibration
stonecold  
#3 Posted : 29 March 2016 11:46:23(UTC)
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stonecold

or noise is another one
Yossarian  
#4 Posted : 29 March 2016 11:51:21(UTC)
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Yossarian

Carrying on the theme suggested by Stonecold; temperature and weather conditions are also physical agents. Don't know if this is what they had in mind, but it should be included.
Russ1977  
#5 Posted : 29 March 2016 11:56:25(UTC)
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Russ1977

Thanks guys, makes perfect sense now. Cheers
Rees21880  
#6 Posted : 29 March 2016 14:21:10(UTC)
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Rees21880

Could you also include compressed air and hazardous materials such as flammable liquids, cryogenic liquids etc? Pete
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 29 March 2016 15:15:20(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

You can take this too far. The focus should remain in the young person being at particular and increased risk due to inexperience, physical or emotional development. Extreme cold or heat is relevant, but weather conditions, not so much. Also EMF Regulation 19 of Management Regs refers.
jay  
#8 Posted : 29 March 2016 17:03:03(UTC)
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jay

Physical agents are sources of energy that may cause injury or disease. Examples include noise, vibration, radiation, and extremes in temperature.
bob youel  
#9 Posted : 30 March 2016 10:11:44(UTC)
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bob youel

there are also areas such as direct physical attack when a young person is left alone at night to lock up a valuable premises and is faced with a gang of youths [usually the same age] who are causing trouble so look at all aspects that may effect a young person at work
jwk  
#10 Posted : 30 March 2016 10:21:27(UTC)
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jwk

One way of looking at this is in terms of Biology, Chemistry and Physics; Biological agents is obvious, Chemical agents is COSHH, physical agents is anything you did in Physics, John
David68  
#11 Posted : 30 March 2016 11:41:08(UTC)
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David68

I have a little issue regarding the definition of young person as those under 18. Whilst 18 is seen as the age of majority, I know from my own experience as a 19/20 year old and now as a parent of a 20 year old that becoming and "adult" does not necessarily equate to an age. I to think of a young person as one who is easily distracted and led by his/her peers, believes themselves to be indestructible and has the "I am not stupid" attitude. I know that at 19/20 I had most if not all of these attributes and I know for certain that my son does!
martin1  
#12 Posted : 31 March 2016 09:55:21(UTC)
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martin1

David68 wrote:
I have a little issue regarding the definition of young person as those under 18. Whilst 18 is seen as the age of majority, I know from my own experience as a 19/20 year old and now as a parent of a 20 year old that becoming and "adult" does not necessarily equate to an age. I to think of a young person as one who is easily distracted and led by his/her peers, believes themselves to be indestructible and has the "I am not stupid" attitude. I know that at 19/20 I had most if not all of these attributes and I know for certain that my son does!
I know where you are coming from - having little "adults" of my own. I always try and meet with any "young" workers and give them a clear brief on what is expected at work with regards to health and safety. I also think supervision is key.
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