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Linda G  
#1 Posted : 04 April 2016 17:27:23(UTC)
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Linda G

Does anyone out there have an external FM provider managing their FM contractors for them and if so what, if anything, do you do to ensure your legal obligations and duty of care towards these sub contractors working on your sites (i.e. window cleaners, air-conditioning services and heating? I am not interested in CDM related contractors but purely routine FM type contractors.

Many thanks

Linda
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 05 April 2016 08:07:08(UTC)
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bob youel

This is standard practice these days & the primary clients legal people seem to have their clients liabilities etc. well protected and 'proximity' for the client is at a long distance so the client should be safe as liabilities etc. will fall to the FM company - morally this may not be correct but who cares about morals anyway. As for an FM company managing the said contractors to what U would see as a professional system well that is another question and as for the HSE/EHO's; well enough said!

As long as the client has some sort of reasonable managing system in place that they use for their FM company they should be safe so if U are in doubt check it out & on a day to day basis if U have concerns go to the FM company and those in your company who procured their services also give day to day on the ground problems to the managers on the spot to sort as that is part of their job best of luck
Linda G  
#3 Posted : 05 April 2016 09:25:04(UTC)
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Linda G

Thanks Bob
N Hancock  
#4 Posted : 05 April 2016 09:25:15(UTC)
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N Hancock

This applies to me and I cover this by working closely with the outsourced contractor. We conduct contractor monitoring of their high risk activities and audit their documentation at regular intervals. Hopefully I am seen as a friend rather than foe.
Mr.Flibble2.0  
#5 Posted : 05 April 2016 10:32:34(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble2.0

Hi

My previous role covered facilities for a distribution center where we had a FM company manage the cleaning, canteen and security who reported to me.

Apart from the usual contractor documents they had to follow all our site rules, take part in our induction and use our PTW's for hazardous activities. If they then used Sub-contractors for hazardous non-routine work all documents were vetted by me before they came on site. The day to day staff were pretty much treated the same as our own employees in terms of H&S.
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